How Much Portuguese is Brazil?

[Tooting Carmen]

Yep. I just checked the figures published by the CIA World Factbook, and yes: Brazilian GDP is (with $2,989,430,000,000) in real terms slightly ahead of France ($2,832,170,000,000) and of the United K. ($2,797,980,000,000).

What can I say? Other than this is a little bit humiliating. France and the UK used to be major actors on the world scene. It's all over now. C'est la vie, baby.

They still are major players, relative to their size. Keep in mind that Brazil has around 220 million people, whereas France and the UK both stop short of 70 million people each.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Yep. I just checked the figures published by the CIA World Factbook, and yes: Brazilian GDP is (with $2,989,430,000,000) in real terms slightly ahead of France ($2,832,170,000,000) and of the United K. ($2,797,980,000,000).

What can I say? Other than this is a little bit humiliating. France and the UK used to be major actors on the world scene. It's all over now. C'est la vie, baby.

Yep, but I was talking about Nominal GDP which Brazil overtaked UK in 2011 and 10 years after Brazil has only half of UK.

[Ezio Auditore]

Brazilians are nothing Portuguese. They are way whiter than Portugal too, probably due to Italian and other European immigrants. Hope this answered your question!

[Sasaolo68]

Brazilians are nothing Portuguese. They are way whiter than Portugal too, probably due to Italian and other European immigrants. Hope this answered your question!

The vast majority of Brazilians have very high Portuguese DNA because of obvious reasons...
The other immigrations besides the Italians didn't make a major impact on the country's DNA.

[Viriatus91]

The vast majority of Brazilians have very high Portuguese DNA because of obvious reasons...
The other immigrations besides the Italians didn't make a major impact on the country's DNA.

There was obviously large-scale Italian immigration to Brazil, but it tends to be over-stated as it was concentrated mostly in southern Brazil and was relatively short-lived. Portuguese migration to Brazil began much sooner and continued steadily into the early 1960s. Not even taking into account the pre-independence migration from Portugal, between 1820 and 31/8/1972 the total immigration to Brazil is as follows:

Portugal 1,790,314
Italy 1,629,249
Spain 717,424
Germany 260,478
Japan 248,007
Other 955,904
TOTAL 5,601,376

Italian immigration peaked between 1887-1903 when 995,620 Italians entered the country, during this period their numbers were more than triple of the Portuguese. Looking at individual years, more Italians entered than Portuguese between in the years from 1877 and 1880, and ever year from 1882 until 1903. The peak year of Italian immigration was 1891 when 132,326 Italians entered Brazil followed by 1897 when 104,510 entered. However, the boom was short-lived as by 1903 only 12,970 entered. The United States and Argentina had overtaken Brazil as the primary destination for Italian emigration.

Though Portuguese immigration eclipsed Italian for every other period and was sustained for a much longer period. Additionally, the return rate for Italians in general was around 45% (slightly lower than in the U.S. or Argentina). The result was the Italian-born population peaked around 1905 with some 700,000 Italian-born individuals in Brazil, or around 3.5% of the total population.

Portuguese vs Italian immigration by period
1820-1876 160,119 vs 16,562
1877-1886 83,998 vs 132,153
1887-1903 305,582 vs 995,620
1904-1914 412,607 vs 212,063
1915-1918 41,897 vs 17,647
1919-1930 337,723 vs 116,319
1931-1940 95,740 vs 18,328
1941-1945 9,073 vs 276
1946-1963 320,595 vs 115,754
1964-1972 22,980 vs 4,527

Portuguese-Born vs Italian-Born
1920 433,577 vs 558,405
1940 380,316 vs 325,283
1950 336,837 vs 242,279
1970 437,983 vs 152,801

In the 1920 census we see a breakdown of Italian-born individuals by state. There were a total of 558,405 individuals born in Italy (1.8% of Brazil's inhabitants) compared with 433,577 from Portugal, 219,142 Spain, 52,870 Germany, 27,976 Japan and 273,991 other countries. Over 71% of the Italian-born individuals lived in the state of São Paulo, where they accounted for 8.8% of that state's population. In

Italian-born by state in 1920 (% of the total state population)
São Paulo 398,797 (8.8%)
Rio Grande do Sul 49,136 (2.3%)
Minas Gerais 42,943 (0.7%)
Rio de Janeiro 31,929 (1.2%)
Espírito Santo 12,553 (2.8%)
Paraná 9,046 (1.3%)
Santa Catarina 8,062 (1.2%)
Bahia 1,448 (0.04%)
Pará 1,114 (0.1%)
Mato Grosso 810 (0.3%)


Portuguese-born by state in 1920
Rio de Janeiro 200,999 (7.5%)
São Paulo 165,542 (3.7%)
Minas Gerais 18,228 (0.3%)
Pará 14,211 (1.5%)
Rio Grande do Sul 9,324 (0.4%)
Amazonas 7,615 (2.2%)
Pernambuco 4,809 (0.2%)
Bahia 3,345 (0.1%)
Paraná 1,808 (0.3%)
Espírito Santo 1,728 (0.4%)

By 1970, the number of Italian-born had declined to 152,801 whereas the Portuguese-born had remained steady increasing slightly to 437,983. The Italian-born were still mostly concentrated in São Paulo with 108,633 (71%) followed by Rio de Janeiro 18,856, Rio Grande do Sul with 6,221, Paraná with 7,523 and Minas Gerais with 5,227.

[Borealis]

did not know that Portugal was poor. Wow