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    Depends on how much you worship money, that's key. I live in a third world country and never finished Uni, instead I started working on the field I liked and I did fine, as a matter of fact I'm not working at the moment and I can survive on my own for at least 6 more months (there's no welfare in the third world). But then again I got no wife or kids, that's a huge money drainage... so if you plan on forming a family start making money lol

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    Interests/hobbies can change. In high school I was very interested in history (when I was like 14,15 and 16 years old). Then I lost interest in it. It still interests me somewhat, but much less than at 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cossack View Post
    Very soon I will graduate from high school and go to university.My parents force me to study at the Faculty of Law.But there is one problem.I hate the subject "law"!"This topic is terribly boring and complicated.I hate him and I don't want to be a lawyer.I have a pretty good aptitude for history.I like this subject, I'm good at it.I want to go to a historical university, But I'm not allowed!The fact is that in Russia historians receive an extremely small salary ($ 273 per month).I have a choice in front of me:go to study to be a lawyer, then work as a lawyer and get a lot of money, but hate your profession and life, or go to study to be a historian, do what you love all your life, but be a beggar.What would you do?
    Being a lawyer absolutely does not guarantee you lot of money. Many lawyers in my country are starving and pennyless (too many of them). I was forced in to law too, and it ruined my life.
    I have no interest into legal work whatsoever but had no choice (my mother is a lawyer). Plus to add, my friends who don't have parent in law have to work for other lawyers, they slave there all day until evenings, earn shit money, are bitter and human relations in workplace are terrible (lot of competition and backstabbing). Only way to serious money for most is to start own law firm and get lucky - that takes years.

    Chose what you like, because if you teach history at university as professor for example you'll earn a lot. Or at historical institute. I mean, regular teachers learn terribly small but if you are best at what you do you can get elite job related to history. if you are forced into law like I was you'll probably be a average lawyer (because of no interest and effort) and be bitter. and average lawyers can't expect to earn much.

    But I do have to add regarding lawyers work is more interesting than study. but if you want my opinion, chose what you like. you have only one life.

    My advice is to study history and than go for PhD, be top of the class and aim at academic career. High respect, high pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cossack View Post
    in Russia historians receive an extremely small salary ($ 273 per month)
    Is this real? Very sad. I recommend architecture. You dont need super-expensive university to become a good architect, Russia is respected in architecture and has good academics, you can work everywhere in the world once you are an architect, working conditions are very good you can mostly work chill on your pc and you sometimes go to check buildings, you can even find freelance jobs from different countries and can make extra or more money.

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    And people suggesting him to study law without any interest have no idea what law school is like. It's extremely hard and demanding (especially in eastern Europe with old fashioned studies with pure theory more or less and little practical work). Law school is hard for anyone, but for somebody without interest it can be hell, as it was for me.

    Minimal passing grades at law school require few hours per day constant studying of incredibly boring giant books. And law studies in Europe last 5 years plus additional time to pass the bar afterwards (usually takes few years)

    Go for it only if you are incredibly disciplined and willing to suffer, and really think as historian you'll starve, otherwise fucking stay away from law. In my country law schools have lowest graduation rates and longest studying rate (7 years is average)

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    Dude, I studied history.

    Now I have a tough path to work as an historian (approve a competitive exam that grant access to public school teaching work, against thousands of competitors). Fortunately I learned languages by myself too (english, german, italian) and work now thanks to it, surely I will work as an historian in the future, but when you become older, the years pass very very fast, and your willingness to study decreases dramatically (moreso if you have a wife and/or children).

    If I were to give you an advise, study something with abundant, safe and well-payed laboral opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Is this real? Very sad. I recommend architecture. You dont need super-expensive university to become a good architect, Russia is respected in architecture and has good academics, you can work everywhere in the world once you are an architect, working conditions are very good you can mostly work chill on your pc and you sometimes go to check buildings, you can even find freelance jobs from different countries and can make extra or more money.
    Thanks for the advice, but I studied in a social and humanitarian class, and architecture requires a physics and mathematics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    I would almost always advise to go for your passion, however it sounds like being a historian does not even pay a living wage over there. I'm very surprised.

    Are there no other options, no other areas of interest for you? I would suggest a route that at least pays a living wage, and also that you do not hate. Hate is a no go.
    The cost of living in St. Petersburg is $163.86. Besides history, I am interested in zoology.Zoologists in Russia unfortunately also receive very little money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cossack View Post
    Very soon I will graduate from high school and go to university.My parents force me to study at the Faculty of Law.But there is one problem.I hate the subject "law"!"This topic is terribly boring and complicated.I hate him and I don't want to be a lawyer.I have a pretty good aptitude for history.I like this subject, I'm good at it.I want to go to a historical university, But I'm not allowed!The fact is that in Russia historians receive an extremely small salary ($ 273 per month).I have a choice in front of me:go to study to be a lawyer, then work as a lawyer and get a lot of money, but hate your profession and life, or go to study to be a historian, do what you love all your life, but be a beggar.What would you do?
    Graduating from law school does not necessarily mean becoming a lawyer. With legal education you can work in the field of criminology, in the legal departments of large companies, in public administration.
    Unsolicited advice is not given, but I will still allow myself to give from personal experience and from the standpoint of my life experience, and it is half a century
    I have always liked history, but when I finished high school I found myself in a completely different field of study, but I finished my master's degree in history 5 years ago, because it was my dream for my own inner satisfaction.
    With an education in the field of legal and historical sciences, you can realize yourself by combining them. Legal knowledge is needed in practically every other field of activity and work. in the field of archeology and the fight against treasure hunting and the export of valuable archaeological treasures, work with historical documents, international organizations and so on.
    I wish you good luck. Listen to your parents, but don't give up on your dreams
    ...Even if a man lives well, he dies and another one comes into existence. Let the one who comes later upon seeing this inscription remember the one who had made it. And the name is Omurtag, Kanasubigi.

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    Economists and lawyers are a "fashionable" professions that had significant chances of success in the 90s and early 2000s, when there was a shortage of such specialists in new Russia (political economy was replaced by neoliberal "economics", and the judicial system began to consider it the norm to protect anyone for money).

    Now these are completely unpromising professions, the labor market is overcrowded, and even for a low-paid vacancy there is a fight between many candidates. Do not go there, unless relatives have prepared such a chair for you during your studies, and your future career path is planned for years to come.
    I think this is a serious imbalance in the market system, when education is just an "educational service" - the number of vacancies does not coincide with the number of graduates in this specialty, and we get cell phone salespeople with an engineering degree. Problem can't be fixed without the complete restoration of industry and science and at least partial restoration of the planned economy.

    I'll write again -
    In Russia, for mere mortals, the choice is between IT (while the window of opportunity is still open, and programmers have not become like lawyers) and the army (if it suits you).
    The rest of the paths for now are much more complicated and are much less likely to guarantee results.

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