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    Default Poland was a part of the Celtic world?

    Apparently Southern Poland was a part of the Celtic world some time ago.
    Well, at least according to the map below:



    And the names of rivers in the Southern Poland such as San, Ropa, Raba are thought to be of Celtic ethymology.

    Discuss. Do you think this is correct?

    Regarding San river name ethymology in Polish below:

    "Nazwa rzeki ma etymologię prawdopodobnie praindoeuropejską, w znaczeniu ‛wartki, bystry strumień’ (taki San właśnie jest na odcinku aż do Przemyśla). W języku Gallów san znaczyło ‛rzeka’. Nazwy rzek Shannon (irl. Siannan), Saona, Seine i San mają wspólny źródłosłów[22][23][24][25][26].

    Według Witolda Taszyckiego nazwa rzeki ma swoje źródło w języku gockim podobnie jak pobliskie rzeki Wiar i Strwiąż. Nazwami górskimi pochodzenia gockiego są według tego autora również Beskid, Beskidy i Bieszczady gdzie swój początek bierze rzeka San[27].

    Według różnych interpretacji dzieła Ptolomeusza Geografia dorzecze Sanu we wczesnym średniowieczu II / III w. n.e. mogło być siedzibami celtyckich plemion Anartów i Saboków[28]. W źródłach nazwę rzeki podawano jako Sanъ, reku Sanъ, k Sanovi, nad Sanomъ (1152), Sanu (1287), San (1339), Szan (1406), Sanok (1438), Saan (1439), Sayn (1445), San (1467), Szan (1517), Schan (1526)[29]."

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    yes, VUR is our enemy, our = Celtic R1b, VUR=R1a

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce

    The area of Kielce has been inhabited since at least the 5th century BC. Until the 6th or 7th century the banks of the Silnica were inhabited by Celts. They were driven out by a Lechitic tribe of Vistulans who started hunting in the nearby huge forests and had settled most of the area now known as Lesser Poland and present-day Świętokrzyskie Voivodeship.

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    Even some in Central Poland according to this map:

    "Archaeologically confirmed areas of Celtic settlement in Poland":

    https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/tag/bastarnae-poland/



    Here only southern parts: https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/20...lts-in-poland/

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    Użytkownik S_u_P_K [Skromny_uczeń_Prof._Kostrzewskiego] na tym forum, faktycznie był studentem Kostrzewskiego w latach 60-tych:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Kostrzewski

    Obecnie jest chyba profesorem w Krakowie.

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    is that clade Gallo-Celtic ??? --->>> https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/...-l51-basal.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veljo View Post
    is that clade Gallo-Celtic ???
    My clade is officially confirmed Celtic now, after the discovery of R1b-L617 in ancient samples from:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-04287-4

    These four samples from this study have R1b-L617:

    I19630
    I19358
    I19362
    I19363

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    Dated to 300-200 BC - France Grand Est IA2 - Marne, Chemin de Coupetz, Faux-Vesigneul, France.

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    Good number of J-L283 in southern / central Poland, there might as well be a relation with the celts in that area.
    Last edited by Tongio; 01-03-2022 at 07:58 PM.

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