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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone around here has asked themselves the same question: Would non-European immigrants flocking north eventually become lighter/ adapt to colder temperature generically and physically ??

    Also, are there any studies out there related to this?
    Only if they were to forego the crutch given them by modernity and lived au naturel, in those climates. As in, living an outdoorsie life and not use heating, etc. Same case for the whites in the West Indies Tooting was asking about.
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    Nope, Sami-Lapps live for hundrends maybe even thousands of years, more north and in colder climates than Germanic Nordics, yet they are darker, never became as light as the Germanic Scandinavians.
    The theory that people adapt to their climate and UV radiation is just a bullshit, same with Human evolution and out of Africa theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximander View Post
    Nope, Sami-Lapps live for hundrends maybe even thousands of years, more north and in colder climates than Germanic Nordics, yet they are darker, never became as light as the Germanic Scandinavians.
    The theory that people adapt to their climate and UV radiation is just a bullshit, same with Human evolution and out of Africa theories.
    I agree with you, the same thing occurs with Amerindians that live on similar climates to many Sub Saharan African countries and still are a bit lighter.

    Natives from New Zealand also aren't much lighter than Polynesians and they live in a quite cold country.

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    I would assume over time, yes.
    Just like people closest to the equator (which is closest to the sun) are darkest.
    My friend who is Japanese said that after a few generations, the Japanese on the Hawaiian islands look different than the Japanese in Japan.
    Having modern day amenities like sun screen can alter things too.
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    Pakistanis and Indians aren't going to turn pale in a few generations, or ever. While pale skin may have an advantage as it's preferred in a female mate (sexual selection) you would need those with lighter skin tone to have more children and while that can have a significant impact on a small population it won't with a large population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolatepug37 View Post
    I would assume over time, yes.
    Just like people closest to the equator (which is closest to the sun) are darkest.
    My friend who is Japanese said that after a few generations, the Japanese on the Hawaiian islands look different than the Japanese on the mainlands.
    Having modern day amenities like sun screen can alter things too.
    I don't see much difference in the skin tone of Amazonids, Andids and Patagonids...(Patagonids live in colder climates and Amazonids are very close to equator)

    I think that applies more to Caucasians(for example difference of South Asians and Germans) and to some East Asians like the Japanese you mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nee4speed111 View Post
    Phenotype adaptations usually take thousands of years, especially without strong selection for skin tone as is the case today. So no, this is very unlikely to happen, however they may appear lighter simply because there isn't so much sun exposure in comparison to their countries of origin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alazair View Post
    southern europe has overall the same climate as turkey, the levant and coastal north africa + receive the same amount of UV radiation.
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