Cuba vs Espirito Santo Brasil which Is whiter?

[Bluenx]

[Albertón]

Espirito Santo, definitely. It is 2% European than Cuba and have 7% less African, according to theses charts.
And keep in mind these charts are comparing averages but places are not made only of aveages.
Espirito Santo had a lot of German and Italian immigration and Talian( Venetto's dialect) and Hunsrückisch( Southwest German dialect) are even considered as cultural heritage by the government of the State of Espirito Santo, if i am not mistaken.

[Albertón]

Espirito Santo, definitely. It is 2% European than Cuba and have 7% less African, according to theses charts.
And keep in mind these charts are comparing averages but places are not made only of aveages.
Espirito Santo had a lot of German and Italian immigration and Talian( Venetto's dialect) and Hunsrückisch( Southwest German dialect) are even considered as cultural heritage by the government of the State of Espirito Santo, if i am not mistaken.

[Latinus]

Espírito Santo, but not by a significant margin.

And since ES's Amerindian and African imput is balanced, in contrast with Cuba's low Amerindian genetics and significantly higher Euro and African imput, the former probably has less people in the phenotypical mulatto/black range by proportion and also more people in the harnizo/castizo range, similar to Colombians and Venezuelas, Cubans, to me, are less triracials than Capixabas/Brazilians, lacking significant mestizo types, making them darker than Capixabas.

There are also two other elements that might make ES looks whiter than Cuba:

- Espírito Santo has a more diverse European stock, mainly a mix of colonial Portuguese stock + Italians (mainly Northern ones, Venetians being the majority) and also a significant Pomerian imput, so you'll see more Capixabas with a more Central Euro look than Cubans, and to many ignorant people, north of Alps = more Euro looking.

- Cuba's Euro stock is heavily Canarian shifted, and while most people from Canary Islands look like regular mainland Spaniardars, because of it's mixed nature of Spaniards and Guanches, their whites probably are darker and display more exotic types than capixabas. Capixabas/Brazilians lack Canarian imput in a significant proportion.

[ANXIETY (ADEPT)]

The southern cone beats Cuba any day. Cuban stats also suffer from nonresponse bias since most emigrants are >90% euro aristocrats who sailed for Miami on shitrafts, but many on the actual island are mixed.

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Eu acho Cuba muita negra com uns pockets de pessoas 90% espanholas

Mas no geral imagino Cuba sendo bem negra e mulata como DR, porém com mais brancos e negros puros.

Os médicos cubanos tendem a ser não brancos

Mas as youtubers cubanas aqui no Brasil como Zoe Martinez e Jane Pons são brancas, a Nayi Mora é euro parda talvez. Não tem um youtuber cubano homem.

No documentário do Cameran Man em Cuba da Netflix que inclusive chorei umas 3 vezes quando assisti é uns 2/3 de negros e mulatos com 1/3 de espanhóis.

A família dos Burregos, as cenas dos hospitais e as pessoas que tentavam sair sendo perseguidas pela população, os engenheiros vendendo artesanato na feira, a decadência generalizada, os médicos trabalhando praticamente de graça, difícil dizer a parte mais emocionante.

[Rafael Passoni]

Espirito Santo, definitely. It is 2% European than Cuba and have 7% less African, according to theses charts.
And keep in mind these charts are comparing averages but places are not made only of aveages.
Espirito Santo had a lot of German and Italian immigration and Talian( Venetto's dialect) and Hunsrückisch( Southwest German dialect) are even considered as cultural heritage by the government of the State of Espirito Santo, if i am not mistaken.

This, and they have Armenian too.

[Albertón]

The southern cone beats Cuba any day. Cuban stats also suffer from nonresponse bias since most emigrants are >90% euro aristocrats who sailed for Miami on shitrafts, but many on the actual island are mixed.

Espirito Santo is not in the Southern Cone territory, though. Southern Brazil's states and Sao Paulo are the only Brazilian states included there.

[Albertón]

Also, i can risk to say Espirito Santo have considerable more pure whites than Cuba( some immigrants made cities only for their ethnicity there like Santa Maria de Jetiba, Pomeranian city. So some of them may have been "endogamous" on their own community, just like happened in the south of the country).

[Rafael Passoni]

I know a lot of Portuguese families that are very endogamous, I remember they refusing my aunt just bc she wasn't Portuguese. My Spanish granduncles and grandaunts have chosen Spanish to marry and in a lesser extent Italians due to language and cultural similarities don't show any barrier bc they can talk each other and were Catholic. Germans and Japaneses did (and do) the same. And almost all imigrants did it at first, bc the language and culture mainly. It's totally normal. Take it: my cousin's grandma was Polish and she never have seen a black in her live before she's got outside Europe. This thing of marrying different culture people is more a new thing (globalization). Probably in Cuba Spaniards did the same.