New regional division of Europa map (Feiichy 2022 verison)

[rothaer]

Yes Zobten = Slęża or Sobótka and it is considered Slavic place of cult too, but also Celtic before Germans. Still some statues are preserved believed to be Celtic:

Impressive. I didn’t know for any such objects from there.

[Russki]

Stearsolina your map is better than most other maps

I would change my vote

[Blondie]

Hungary was close to choosing eastern Christianity as well. Hungarian Holy Crown is actually Byzantine styled, and when there was civil war in Hungary between Stephen (first Magyar King, baptized western Christian and a Christian saint) and his cousin Koppány, who although pagan in reality, was nominally baptised in eastern Christianity. Had Koppány won, perhaps Hungary would have taken eastern Christianity instead of western promoted by Stephen (it would likely stayed pagan for longer time though as Koppány was against foreign priests and was closer to Magyar tribal traditions, unlike Stephen who westernized and feudalized country quickly, inviting many foreigner Europeans to settle in it)

There was not western and eastern christianity at this time, the great schism happened in 1054, after St. Stephen's dead so he didn't choose any side, but actually he had good relationship with Rome and Constantinople too.
There is no evidence that Koppány was christian or baptised, but he represented the old nomad traditions, and lifestyle. If Koppány wins then Hungary would have stayed a nomadic state like earlier. St. Stephen has never lost any battle in his life, he got the holy title, and he created an 1000 years old statehood what is Hungary today, Koppány was clearly a loser compared to him.

[Jana]

There was not western and eastern christianity at this time, the great schism happened in 1054, after St. Stephen's dead so he didn't choose any side, but actually he had good relationship with Rome and Constantinople too.
There is no evidence that Koppány was christian or baptised, but he represented the old nomad traditions, and lifestyle. If Koppány wins then Hungary would have stayed a nomadic state like earlier. St. Stephen has never lost any battle in his life, he got the holy title, and he created an 1000 years old statehood what is Hungary today, Koppány was clearly a loser compared to him.

There was eastern and western Christianity, just not orthodoxy and catholicism.
As for Koppány, I got this info from Hungarian rock opera

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istv%C..._a_kir%C3%A1ly

[Blondie]

There was eastern and western Christianity, just not orthodoxy and catholicism.
As for Koppány, I got this info from Hungarian rock opera

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istv%C..._a_kir%C3%A1ly

There were theological debates and political contraries but officially only one christianity existed when St. Stephen lived and the István a király rock opera has very little to do with reality, its just an idealized musical.

[Jana]

There were theological debates and political contraries but officially only one christianity existed when St. Stephen lived and the István a király rock opera has very little to do with reality, its just an idealized musical.

What I mean is that there was rivlary between Rome and Constantinople already, and by getting baptised by priests from one or the other was a political statement. Indeed, Christianity didn't split yet officialy but the division was there. This rock opera is very good, it's an art piece but if fairly simplistically explains conflict between Stephen (progress) and Koppany (traditions)

I assume you're not a fan because you don't romanticize characters like Koppany who indeed is shown as romantic barbarian there.

[Vožd]

In my experience I've seen Slovenes being obnoxious fucks towards both Croats and Serbs and saying shit like this.

Is this 4chan?

[Zohor]

It's quite obvious that Serbs are generally more Southern in origin than Croats and Croats get a superiority complex from that.

Belarusians are more Northern-shifted than Poles, I don't understand why Poles think of themselves so highly.

I can't tell for genetic stuff, but regarding second part Stearsolina in post you quoted was talking about how people see Poles, not how Poles feel about themselves. You met several Poles on some online foraswho probably are very close with mentality to you cause I don't think you would attend leftist foras) so now you are expert on how do most of Poles view the situation, nice.

[Vožd]

Southeastern Europe is not cultural group, no matter how divided, so you can add also Greece and Slovenia (geographically) and Moldova (due it's ties to Romania).

[Rumata]

fixed a bit

You look so fat on this picture