Why is Cyprus not a part of Greece

[Peterski]

Why has it not become a part of Greece? And are you in favour of uniting with Cyprus (poll)?

Edit:

And why is there no Cyprus subforum on TA?

[wvwvw]

For the same reason Northern Epirius isn’t part of Greece despite the fact it was liberated by Greeks three times. Italy objected and didn’t want a Greece that dominated the Adriatic. It was ceded to Albania under condition it would respect its autonomous status which it never did.

Also for the same reason Greece lost Constantinople, Smyrna and Pontus despite the fact they had been ceded to Greece in the treaty of Serves. They were ceded to Turkey under condition it would respect their autonomy, which it never did.

And for the same reason Britain and Turkey did not want a unified Greece and Cyprus as that would skyrocket the geopolitical importance of Greece.

[wvwvw]

And why is there no Cyprus subforum on TA?

Why bother when there is a Greece section? It would be strange for Cypriots to have a different section.

[Dušan]

Whole Greek nation should be unified.
I am in favour for that idea.

[Faklon]

It's a long story, mind that Cyprus was a British colony 50-60 years ago.

From most to the least important factor:

- Turks don't want this, they invaded the island in 1974 and they provoke every day since then.
- Greek junta made many wrong steps in order to reach a deal in the 70s, they opposed Makarios. The result from this is that many Cypriots lost interest.
- There was an offer in WW1 for Greece to take Cyprus from Britain, but Greece went for Asia Minor.

[wvwvw]

If Turkey annex the invaded part, we most definitely will unite with Cyprus. If not, I don’t think it’s necessary.

[Peterski]

For the same reason Northern Epirius isn’t part of Greece despite the fact it was liberated by Greeks three times. Italy objected and didn’t want a Greece that dominated the Adriatic. It was ceded to Albania under condition it would respect its autonomous status which it never did.

Also for the same reason Greece lost Constantinople, Smyrna and Pontus despite the fact they had been ceded to Greece in the treaty of Serves. They were ceded to Turkey under condition it would respect their autonomy, which it never did.

Those places you mentioned no longer have Greek population* (I've been to Constantinople and it's all Turks & other non-Greeks).

But Cyprus still has a Greek-speaking majority, and it is even part of the European Union. So what is stopping you from uniting?

*With a possible exception of Northern Epirus, I don't know if there still is a Greek minority there or not.

And for the same reason Britain and Turkey did not want a unified Greece and Cyprus as that would skyrocket the geopolitical importance of Greece.

It's a long story, mind that Cyprus was a British colony 50-60 years ago.

Britain just left the EU so nobody within the EU (and this includes both Greece and Cyprus) cares about British opinions anymore.

[wvwvw]

It's a long story, mind that Cyprus was a British colony 50-60 years ago.

From most to the least important factor:

- Turks don't want this, they invaded the island in 1974 and they provoke every day since then.
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After Cyprus was demilitarized and was tricked by the USA and Britain to do so.

Turks had no say in Cyprus, they had given up all their rights in the Lausanne treaty. They were an insignificant minority of 18% the vast majority of them were Greek speaking and had the same culture as the Greeks. Britain did not want to give up on Cyprus so encouraged Turks to invade it.

[wvwvw]

Those places you mentioned no longer have Greek population* (I've been to Constantinople and it's all Turks & other non-Greeks).

But Cyprus still has a Greek-speaking majority, and it is even part of the European Union. So what is stopping you from uniting?

*With a possible exception of Northern Epirus, I don't know if there still is a Greek minority there or not.



Britain just left the EU so nobody within the EU (and this includes both Greece and Cyprus) cares about British opinions anymore.

Those places were majority Greek, which is why they were ceded to Greece in the first place. Read about the holocaust of the Greeks and other Christian minorities in Turkey. It dwarfs even the Jewish Holocaust which inspired Hitler. The Jews lost around 6% of their population, but Greeks lost half their population.

[wvwvw]

After the population exchange, and the death of over half a million Pontians in death marches, Turkey signed the treaty of Lausanne with Greece in which oblige Turkey to protect a 250,000 Greek minority in Constantinople which it names as Greek, , and also oblige Greece to respect a 80;000 minority which specifally names as Muslim and not Turkish, as half of it is Pomak. It also ceded two Greek populated islands to Turkey, Imvros and Tenedos, under condition it would respect their autonomy status. Turkey ethnically cleansed ALL its Greek minority as well as those islands, in organized pogroms. Meanwhile the Muslim minority in Thrace doubled in number. Turkey even invaded Syria and illegally annexed Hatay in violation of the Lausanne treaty after first ethnically cleansing the Assyrian minority there. It has never respected any treaty it has signed.