Bulgarians and Hungarians closest genetically - Bulgarian academics claim

[Crn Volk]

Owing to their common Hunno-Bulgar heritage

[Turul Karom]

[Muffinman]

What are your thoughts on Dugin's Eurasianism if you've heard of it?

[Turul Karom]

What are your thoughts on Dugin's Eurasianism if you've heard of it?

I have head of him here and there, but not in a long time. I don't read about him much, or "Eurasianism" which seems like could mean many things, but I know that Dugin was banned from entering Hungary, and his version of it seems like just like a non-Soviet-flavor Warsaw Pact situation where the smaller E. European nations form a borderless conglomerate as defense for Russia under the idea that the ideologies of the West cannot be resisted alone. You know, there's no need to remove Hungary's borders to establish anything, whether that's a military cooperation agreement, a trade agreement, etc. Why take the step down from independence? Pointless. Hungary's borders and people are currently sovereign(ish) with the current fight being against the EU federalization, penalization, and American/Anglosphere outposts of ideological thought that follows. Dugin sounds like someone who, if born in a different place but with the same attitude, would be pushing harder for EU federalization.

What does Hungary gain from literally any of this?

[Blondie]

Yes obviously the old bulgars and the magyar conquerors were pretty same peoples, but modern hungarians and bulgarians are differents.

[Muffinman]

What does Hungary gain from literally any of this?

In my opinion, nothing. I was just wondering what you thought of it as a Turanist Hungarian. Eurasianism is a pretty farfetched ideology but there are at least a few convincing arguments for it regardless (e.g., cultural influence from Central Asia). By the way, I do not know too much about neo-Eurasianism/Duginism but I think it's something that can actually gain traction in regions like Central Asia with the West's inevitable demise. China and Turkey are just not one of those regions, and that's troublesome for a Eurasianist.

[Crn Volk]

Yes obviously the old bulgars and the magyar conquerors were pretty same peoples, but modern hungarians and bulgarians are differents.

Agreed, but the 'experts' in the video are trying to convince the viewers otherwise, citing genetic studies.

[Kaspias]

Anything claimed bu Bulgarian "academics" is usually ends up with being bullshit. Poor efforts by state-funded academia... Rather tries to convince people to the Iranic theory or rarely accepts the Turkic theory and pretend like they actually have got massive Turkic admixture. 140 Years of crisis of Bulgarian nation-building paradox.

[Blondie]

Agreed, but the 'experts' in the video are trying to convince the viewers otherwise, citing genetic studies.

Not exactly same because as i know old bulgars were more iranic shifted, nomad magyars were more germanic shifted, but im sure they spoked same oghur-turkic language too.

[Kaspias]

Not exactly same because as i know old bulgars were more iranic shifted, nomad magyars were more germanic shifted, but im sure they spoked same oghur-turkic language too.

Rather can be said in the form of "Old Bulgars were Oghurs who left the Hunnic confederation, old Magyars were mixed Oghurs and Uralic speakers with later significant contribution of Pechenegs and Cumans." The Germanic shift occurred because they mixed with Germanic people in Hungary, in their essence they didn't have that shift.