What ethnicity am I? Please help

[lenzhka]

Well, not exclusively, they have intermarried also. Do you know all your ancestors for the last 3 generations or so?

No, unfortunately not. I only know a few maternal ancestors from photos.
On my father's side, I know absolutely nothing about his ancestors.

[lenzhka]

Maybe 1/2 East German and 1/2 Croatian (based on your surname)?

On K13 you have a distance of about 8 from the East German average, and 10 from the Croatian average, so you are balanced between those two with a lean to East German.

*Edit, using the updated Croatian average and the old East German/German average:

Lenzhka,35.2,36.2,7.44,3.82,9.42,2.3,1.24,0.7,1.5,0.52,0.95,0,0.7

Target: Lenzhka
Distance: 8.9937% / 8.99368226
71.1 East_German
28.9 Croat

Let's try the overall German average + Croat:

Target: Lenzhka
Distance: 9.7271% / 9.72710344
59.5 Croat
40.5 German

Second one looks okay as a parental split, assuming recombination resulted in you leaning to one parent. But that distance (9.7) is pretty high.

How do you calculate that? Maybe my parents are not both a specific ethnicity, if the distance is still so high?

[PlattitüdenPaule]

Alles in allem schätze ich mal, dass in deiner Familie in jüngerer Vergangenheit jemand mit Ashkenazischem Hintergrund in einer Liaison zu jemandem aus Ostpreußen stand. Ashkenazi = hoch Ostmediterran und Ostpreußen = oftmals niedrig West Asiatisch (durch den hohen baltischen Influx). Das würde auch die relativ hohen Distanzen im Orakel erklären, da Ashkenazi in der Regel einen ziemlich starken genetischen Kontrast bilden zu den Menschen um sie herum. Man darf aber auch nicht vergessen, dass Eurogenes K13 dafür bekannt ist ziemlich hohe Distanzen bei den meisten Leuten anzuzeigen.

[Loki]

No, unfortunately not. I only know a few maternal ancestors from photos.
On my father's side, I know absolutely nothing about his ancestors.

I think you have your answer there. Your father is of Roma background, in all likelihood.

[lenzhka]

I think you have your answer there. Your father is of Roma background, in all likelihood.

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Here are 2 photos of my father
Well, would you classify him as Roma by appearance? In my eyes he looks more balto-slavic, idk.

[lenzhka]

Alles in allem schätze ich mal, dass in deiner Familie in jüngerer Vergangenheit jemand mit Ashkenazischem Hintergrund in einer Liaison zu jemandem aus Ostpreußen stand. Ashkenazi = hoch Ostmediterran und Ostpreußen = oftmals niedrig West Asiatisch (durch den hohen baltischen Influx). Das würde auch die relativ hohen Distanzen im Orakel erklären, da Ashkenazi in der Regel einen ziemlich starken genetischen Kontrast bilden zu den Menschen um sie herum. Man darf aber auch nicht vergessen, dass Eurogenes K13 dafür bekannt ist ziemlich hohe Distanzen bei den meisten Leuten anzuzeigen.

Das vermute ich auch. Zumindest aus der Region Schlesien / Posen, da ich zu wenig baltischen Einfluss habe im Vergleich zu den Nachkommen aus dem Gebiet Ostpreußen. Schließlich weisen sie eine nähere Distanz zu Südbalten; Litauern bzw ehemaligen Prussen auf.
Wir glauben, dass meine Uroma vermutlich den aschkenasichen Einfluss aus Regionen von Siebenbürgen miteingebracht hat. Ihre Eltern haben im Kreis Kronstadt / Brasov gelebt.

[Kyp]

Here are 2 photos of my father
Well, would you classify him as Roma by appearance? In my eyes he looks more balto-slavic, idk.

No doesnt look Roma influenced, also your Gedmatch results don't indicate any Roma background. I would try to look for a 2nd company to test.

[lenzhka]

No doesnt look Roma influenced, also your Gedmatch results don't indicate any Roma background. I would try to look for a 2nd company to test.

Yes, I've ordered a dna test from 23andme and hope that the results will give better answers

[Kyp]

Yes, I've ordered a dna test from 23andme and hope that the results will give better answers

Aufjedenfall!

[Mr.G]

How do you calculate that? Maybe my parents are not both a specific ethnicity, if the distance is still so high?

I did the calculations utilizing https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

The distance can be high simply because you are from at least 2 distinct ethnic groups, but yes I agree that your background may be more complicated than the model I made.

23andMe handles mixed ancestry best imo, and they should be able to identify if you have Jewish ancestry.