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    Red face My grandparents' autosomal results

    The autosomal results for my maternal grandparents are ready.

    Grandpa (Moldovan/Romanian) - all ancestry up to his great-grandparents comes from a single village in the South.



    Grandma (Ukrainian) - born in Ukrainian village of Orthodoxised Catholics, which nowadays is 50% Ukrainian and 50% Moldovan/Romanian at the census. She could also be mixed with Moldovans/Romanians judging by the results and some surnames on her side, although plenty of Ukrainians in Carpathian/Chernivtsi/Moldova area are like her genetically.



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    Grandpa



    Grandma



    My mom's not on FTDNA, but here are my results from a 2017 upload of 23andme data

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    Normality finally returns to the forum...
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    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Grandpa

    Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Grandpa 20.32 32.60 16.18 7.99 19.36 1.32 0 0.30 0 0.83 0.50 0.62 0

    Distance to: Grandpa
    6.23168517 Serb_South
    6.40465456 Serb_Central
    6.41338444 Moldovan
    6.74522053 Serb_Herzegovina
    6.77934363 Moldovan_Central
    6.94959711 Moldovan_South
    6.95312160 Serb
    7.01308777 Serb_Vojvodina
    7.04839698 Serb_Croatia
    7.16551464 Serb_Republika_Srpska
    7.27145790 Bulgarian_Northwestern
    7.43776848 Romanian_North-Moldavia
    7.75205779 Romanian_South-Moldavia
    7.98291300 Romanian_Crișana
    7.99467948 Serb_West
    8.02634412 Romanian
    8.08266045 Montenegrin
    8.21057854 Romanian_Transylvania
    8.43180882 Moldovan_North
    8.45380979 Croat_South
    8.54537887 Romanian_Banat
    8.56078852 Pomak_Bulgaria
    8.58512085 Romanian_Maramureș
    8.62230248 Romanian_Dobruja
    9.01777689 Serb_Montenegro


    Grandma

    Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Grandma 24.71 38.15 11.21 7.63 12.21 0.31 2.15 0.89 1.72 0.59 0.43 0 0

    Distance to: Grandma
    3.97409109 Ukrainian_Carpathians
    4.93175425 Bosniak
    4.95452319 Ukrainian_Moldova
    5.66389442 Croat_East
    5.91425397 Lemko_Poland
    6.01434951 Moldovan_North
    6.34709382 Ukrainian_Galicia
    7.22929457 Hungarian_North
    7.52813390 Croat
    7.97561910 Croat_North
    8.04287262 Slovak
    8.07596434 Hungarian_Alföld
    8.28405094 Polish_Subcarpathia
    8.55417442 Croat_South
    8.73511877 Moldovan_Central
    8.90275800 Hungarian
    8.95396002 Romanian_North-Moldavia
    8.97993318 Croat_West
    9.00529289 Moldovan
    9.23420814 Slovenian
    9.33615553 Serb_Republika_Srpska
    9.48150832 Polish_South
    9.62634406 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    9.69327602 Polish_Silesia
    9.90811284 Ukrainian



    Mum (daughter)

    Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    Mum 19.44 37.30 15.60 10.04 13.19 0.47 0.95 1.49 0.28 0.41 0.82 0 0

    Distance to: Mum
    6.21001610 Moldovan_North
    7.23528161 Bosniak
    7.63891354 Moldovan
    7.76073450 Moldovan_Central
    8.50078232 Serb_Republika_Srpska
    8.51284911 Croat_East
    8.82755345 Romanian_North-Moldavia
    8.92875691 Ukrainian_Carpathians
    9.15483479 Croat_South
    9.58767438 Lemko_Poland
    9.85514079 Serb_Croatia
    10.02540772 Serb
    10.09574663 Croat
    10.40070190 Ukrainian_Moldova
    10.41286224 Serb_Central
    10.50257111 Serb_West
    10.75370634 Serb_South
    10.75465946 Serb_Vojvodina
    10.96851859 Romanian_Maramureș
    11.07951714 Serb_Herzegovina
    11.11522829 Croat_West
    11.43847455 Ukrainian_Galicia
    11.59522747 Hungarian_Alföld
    11.82390798 Moldovan_South
    11.88190641 Csángó-Ceangău


    Ion Basescul's brother and Ion Basescul (nephews)

    Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    IonBasescul 25.68 29.49 15.21 9.61 12.77 1.72 0.62 1.82 2.81 0 0.27 0 0
    Brother 20.94 32.81 16.13 11.69 12.21 0.97 2.06 1.03 1.08 0.54 0.54 0 0

    Distance to: IonBasescul
    2.93703933 Csángó-Ceangău
    2.98968226 Romanian_North-Moldavia
    3.19231891 Romanian_Maramureș
    3.50794812 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    3.70978436 Moldovan_Central
    3.85185670 Serb_Republika_Srpska
    3.92462737 Moldovan
    3.95326447 Serb_West
    4.05120970 Croat_South
    4.19824964 Serb_Croatia
    4.34673441 Serb
    4.85520339 Serb_Vojvodina
    4.95957659 Serb_Central
    5.02414172 Croat_West
    5.20153823 Moldovan_North
    5.31538334 Romanian_Crișana
    5.56564462 Croat
    5.62585105 Serb_Herzegovina
    5.77230457 Serb_South
    5.97866206 Romanian_South-Moldavia
    6.10317131 Croat_East
    6.31011886 Romanian_Transylvania
    6.38485709 Hungarian_Alföld
    6.40910290 Bosniak
    6.64887960 Romanian

    Distance to: Brother
    4.56137041 Moldovan
    4.60902376 Moldovan_Central
    4.62090900 Moldovan_North
    5.73590446 Serb_Republika_Srpska
    5.82171796 Romanian_North-Moldavia
    6.59513457 Bosniak
    6.80723879 Serb
    6.84440648 Croat_South
    6.98045127 Serb_Croatia
    7.11483661 Serb_West
    7.43406349 Romanian_Maramureș
    7.51636880 Serb_Vojvodina
    7.54850316 Serb_South
    7.63490013 Croat_East
    7.69345176 Serb_Central
    7.95206891 Serb_Herzegovina
    8.34057552 Csángó-Ceangău
    8.34086926 Moldovan_South
    8.46086284 Croat
    8.63164527 Romanian_Crișana
    8.77994305 Romanian_South-Moldavia
    8.99995556 Croat_West
    9.12358482 Romanian
    9.15491125 Romanian_Transylvania
    9.37332385 Montenegrin
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    Very interesting results. Shows how ethnic southern Moldovans without Bulgarian/Gagauz admixture have average Moldovan results?
    Target: Stearsolina_scaled
    Distance: 2.4780% / 0.02478030

    60.0 Early_Slavic
    30.8 Romanized_Balkan
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    Grandpa

    Name Gedrosia Siberian NW_African SE_Asian Atlantic_Med North_European South_Asian East_African SW_Asian East_Asian Caucasus Sub_Saharan
    Grandpa 3.87 0.41 0.59 0.3 25.19 39.28 0 0 5.73 0 24.62 0

    Distance to: Grandpa
    3.90822210 Serb
    4.04808597 Moldovan_Central
    4.56015351 Montenegrin
    5.56824030 Romanian
    5.85211927 Bulgarian_West
    6.00602198 Moldovan_South
    6.12992659 Bosnian
    6.44807723 Pomak_Bulgaria
    6.45034108 Moldovan_North
    7.18595853 Bulgarian_Central
    7.46238568 Croat_South
    7.95499214 Pomak_Greece
    8.93842268 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    9.29792450 Bulgarian_East
    9.33801906 Macedonian_Polog
    9.36645611 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
    9.70850143 Croat
    9.82760907 Moldovan_Gagauz
    9.93539129 Macedonian_East
    10.94278758 Greek_Macedonia
    11.48225588 Macedonian_Vardar
    11.57138280 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    11.70495194 Hungarian
    11.92057885 Slovenian
    12.05792685 Macedonian_South


    Grandma

    Name Gedrosia Siberian NW_African SE_Asian Atlantic_Med North_European South_Asian East_African SW_Asian East_Asian Caucasus Sub_Saharan
    Grandma 4.64 1.94 0 0.39 21.32 46.54 0.75 0 3.77 1.65 19.01 0


    Distance to: Grandma
    4.77345787 Moldovan_North
    5.55453868 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    6.44268578 Bosnian
    6.71055884 Croat
    6.94347175 Croat_South
    7.55605717 Hungarian_North
    7.88450379 Moldovan_Central
    8.26575465 Hungarian_Alföld
    8.27554832 Hungarian
    8.55049706 Slovenian
    8.67035755 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    8.97783381 Slovak
    9.47494591 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    10.18871925 Serb
    10.94530950 Czech
    11.25319510 Ukrainian
    12.65984202 Russian_Ryazan
    12.66888314 Sorb_Lusatia
    12.77641186 Russian_Oryol
    12.88191368 Russian_Voronezh
    12.99909228 Russian_Kursk
    13.58134382 Tatar_Mishar
    13.64809144 Polish
    13.66731137 Montenegrin
    13.84624859 Mordovian


    Mum (daughter)

    Name Gedrosia Siberian NW_African SE_Asian Atlantic_Med North_European South_Asian East_African SW_Asian East_Asian Caucasus Sub_Saharan
    Mum 5.09 0.17 0 0 23.69 42.89 0.06 0 3.78 3.08 21.09 0.15


    Distance to: Ion_Basescul_mom(Moldovan)
    3.41233058 Moldovan_North
    4.12515454 Bosnian
    4.12835318 Moldovan_Central
    5.07717441 Croat_South
    6.24050479 Serb
    6.30315001 Croat
    7.33373711 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    8.25034545 Hungarian
    8.28006039 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    8.28047100 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    8.56787605 Slovenian
    8.83678109 Hungarian_North
    8.90616640 Hungarian_Alföld
    9.30751847 Montenegrin
    10.57769351 Romanian
    10.98120212 Moldovan_South
    11.16742584 Bulgarian_West
    11.66673048 Slovak
    11.79248914 Pomak_Bulgaria
    12.51970048 Bulgarian_Central
    12.55138638 Czech
    13.01713486 Pomak_Greece
    14.14165478 Austrian_Tyrol
    14.51276335 Bulgarian_East
    14.52503012 Macedonian_Polog


    Ion Basescul's brother and Ion Basescul (nephews)

    Name Gedrosia Siberian NW_African SE_Asian Atlantic_Med North_European South_Asian East_African SW_Asian East_Asian Caucasus Sub_Saharan
    Ion Basescul 5.39 1.48 0.11 0 25.41 40.62 0 0 4.36 2.17 20.47 0
    Brother 6.93 0 0 1.19 23.61 41.15 0 0 3.86 1.67 21.57 0


    Distance to: IonBasescul
    2.12546466 Moldovan_Central
    3.41288734 Bosnian
    3.59961109 Serb
    3.69273611 Moldovan_North
    4.43075614 Croat_South
    4.78100408 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    6.33365613 Croat
    6.79103821 Montenegrin
    7.45063085 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    7.57099069 Hungarian
    8.22784905 Romanian
    8.31830512 Slovenian
    8.53002345 Hungarian_Alföld
    8.71466006 Moldovan_South
    8.92685835 Hungarian_North
    9.01001110 Bulgarian_West
    9.44407221 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    9.98158805 Pomak_Bulgaria
    10.52132121 Bulgarian_Central
    11.41043820 Austrian_Tyrol
    11.60720035 Pomak_Greece
    12.20801376 Macedonian_Polog
    12.37256643 German_Bavaria
    12.50136393 Slovak
    12.55855883 Bulgarian_East

    Distance to: Brother
    3.38303119 Moldovan_Central
    4.32945724 Moldovan_North
    4.53200838 Bosnian
    5.34249942 Serb
    5.76837065 Croat_South
    7.05363027 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    7.33988420 Croat
    7.94346902 Montenegrin
    8.83524759 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    8.96897988 Hungarian
    8.97743839 Romanian
    9.22736149 Moldovan_South
    9.51352721 Bulgarian_West
    9.62478571 Slovenian
    9.87036980 Hungarian_Alföld
    9.98442287 Hungarian_North
    10.03642367 Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
    10.15304880 Pomak_Bulgaria
    10.78710805 Bulgarian_Central
    11.29827420 Pomak_Greece
    12.68027997 Bulgarian_East
    12.72433888 Moldovan_Gagauz
    12.82710022 Macedonian_Polog
    13.09498377 Slovak
    13.40821390 Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Very interesting results. Shows how ethnic southern Moldovans without Bulgarian/Gagauz admixture have average Moldovan results?
    Needs more results from the South to make such conclusion. He indeed looks northern for the region, especially his Baltic score is very high despite he have also high East Med. Local Bulgarians/Gagauz don't score such high Baltic, only if they are mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Very interesting results. Shows how ethnic southern Moldovans without Bulgarian/Gagauz admixture have average Moldovan results?
    Yep, though East Med is definitely on the Southern side, together with the very low North Atlantic.

    I already knew from the samples that I have in my project that people in the South have heterogenous results. I wrote a post that summarises the genetic diversity of the South here.

    There are academic samples from the ethnically Moldovan/Romanian village of Caplani in Stefan Voda district. My grandpa is from the Southwest, while they are from the Southeast end of the country at the border with Ukraine. The samples in blue have results similar to his.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    21.01 25.42 16.62 11.92 18.51 4.11 0.58 0 0 0 0.50 0.51 0.82
    18.42 25.95 16.17 15.44 17.84 3.82 0.56 0.56 0 1.25 0 0 0
    18.27 19.97 19.01 15.32 19.44 4.68 0.12 1.50 0.68 0.54 0 0 0.48
    19.84 23.81 19.67 11.16 19.93 3.16 0 0.00 1.21 0.29 0.52 0 0.40
    22.08 23.50 19.95 9.57 19.50 3.24 0 1.74 0.34 0 0.08 0 0
    16.91 24.06 20.61 12.07 23.58 0 0.52 0 1.03 0 0.29 0.45 0.50
    20.23 23.81 21.69 7.85 19.98 3.35 0 0 2.91 0 0.19 0 0
    21.08 28.93 14.78 9.89 19.66 4.48 0.57 0.61 0 0 0 0 0
    21.23 24.68 15.16 12.29 20.35 3.67 0 0 2.38 0 0.25 0 0
    26.39 24.34 17.44 13.21 12.41 4.18 0 0.31 0.71 0 0.89 0 0.12


    Apart from them, I have results of about 14 people from the Southwest as my grandpa.


    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan
    18.71 29.10 18.39 10.79 14.63 4.48 0 0.85 0 2.02 0.74 0.25 0
    20.84 33.29 12.22 10.70 19.69 0 0.38 2.18 0.24 0.25 0.22 0 0
    21.75 29.53 15.63 11.25 16.39 0.98 1.08 0 3.24 0 0.15 0 0
    20.92 28.56 14.80 9.67 22.16 0.86 1.64 0 0.64 0 0 0 0.75
    25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0
    23.37 29.63 18.88 7.42 15.59 1.27 0.18 2.08 0.93 0 0.35 0.31 0
    21.97 29.12 17.67 9.65 17.09 0 0 0 1.19 2.73 0.50 0 0.08
    26.62 25.42 17.46 6.44 18.72 2.83 0.23 1.27 0.54 0.37 0 0 0.10
    24.24 30.96 16.93 9.20 12.37 3.87 0 0.26 0.80 0.63 0.73 0 0
    19.20 26.97 17.98 13.72 17.17 0.71 1.21 0.13 2.11 0.16 0 0 0.65
    22.07 26.71 18.53 10.16 16.05 0.68 1.97 0.24 1.77 0.81 1.01 0 0
    22.14 26.92 17.61 8.58 18.76 4.15 0 0 0.10 1.71 0 0 0
    21.18 29.08 15.75 11.49 18.09 1.22 1.04 0.56 0.65 0.51 0.32 0.11 0
    18.04 26.87 17.24 12.49 19.31 2.99 0.68 0.27 1.35 0.76 0 0 0

    Unfortunately I don't have many samples from the South, compared to Centre and North. But my grandpa's results are consistent with the samples from the Southwest that I already had.
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    Name S0Indian Baloch Caucasian NE0Euro SE0Asian Siberian NE0Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW0Asian San E0African Pygmy W0African
    Grandpa 0 4.3 23.83 41.71 0 0 0 0.15 0.82 1.07 21.88 6.24 0 0 0 0


    Distance to: Grandpa
    4.87418711 Serbian
    5.99774958 Moldova_Centre
    6.54544880 Romanian
    6.99976428 Moldova_South
    7.55870359 Moldova_North
    7.80765009 Bulgarian
    12.80958625 Hungarian
    13.63514576 Slovenian
    19.95228809 Italian
    21.23745041 Tuscan3
    21.27497591 French
    21.28042293 Tuscan1
    21.38116227 Tuscan2
    21.39658384 Ukranian
    23.18416485 North_European
    24.65663602 Utahn_White1
    24.88135848 Utahn_White2
    25.77599465 Ashkenazi
    26.84168214 British
    27.16965035 Russian1
    27.54048838 Mordovian
    27.70538576 Spaniard2
    27.82007908 Belorussian
    28.98639853 Spaniard1
    29.24626130 Orcadian


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    Name S0Indian Baloch Caucasian NE0Euro SE0Asian Siberian NE0Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW0Asian San E0African Pygmy W0African
    Grandma 0.68 7.84 15.3 48.19 0 2.16 0.58 0.5 0.06 1.46 20.04 3.18 0 0 0 0

    Distance to: Grandma
    4.75830852 Slovenian
    4.86972278 Hungarian
    5.87066436 Moldova_North
    8.90226376 Moldova_Centre
    10.59983962 Serbian
    11.26461273 Ukranian
    12.47399695 Moldova_South
    14.45389913 North_European
    16.17851971 Utahn_White2
    16.49583584 Romanian
    16.76620410 Mordovian
    16.79922617 Utahn_White1
    17.98223846 Belorussian
    18.04833510 Russian1
    18.58206393 French
    18.71073756 Bulgarian
    18.90655971 British
    20.43316667 Orcadian
    20.66461226 Russian2
    21.51621017 Sintashta
    22.24402167 Chuvash
    26.53827236 Lithuanian
    26.92556963 Italian
    29.60789928 Spaniard2
    30.70453387 Tuscan2




    Mum (daughter)

    Name S0Indian Baloch Caucasian NE0Euro SE0Asian Siberian NE0Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW0Asian San E0African Pygmy W0African
    Mum 0.07 7.56 19.7 45.47 0.77 0 0 0.2 0.21 2.11 20.19 3.69 0 0 0 0

    Distance to: Mum
    3.79656424 Moldova_North
    5.56876108 Moldova_Centre
    5.68874327 Serbian
    7.66799844 Hungarian
    8.19840838 Slovenian
    9.04673422 Moldova_South
    11.84183263 Romanian
    13.77504628 Bulgarian
    15.47266299 Ukranian
    18.35356096 North_European
    19.61539956 French
    20.03104341 Utahn_White2
    20.23153479 Utahn_White1
    21.40271478 Mordovian
    21.73952621 Russian1
    22.11092716 Belorussian
    22.40557074 British
    24.00515986 Italian
    24.35788373 Orcadian
    25.47472473 Russian2
    26.13044393 Chuvash
    26.18351963 Sintashta
    26.66483452 Tuscan3
    26.71103143 Tuscan2
    26.81720157 Tuscan1


    Ion Basescul's brother and Ion Basescul (nephews)

    Name S0Indian Baloch Caucasian NE0Euro SE0Asian Siberian NE0Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW0Asian San E0African Pygmy W0African
    Ion Basescul 0.43 7.79 19.43 41.81 0 0.94 1.58 0.42 0 1.24 22.66 3.69 0 0 0 0
    Brother 0.11 8.61 19.87 42.21 0.23 0 0.65 0.21 0.46 1.88 21.85 3.72 0.21 0 0 0




    Distance to: IonBasescul
    1.75028569 Moldova_Centre
    3.06602348 Moldova_North
    4.62235871 Serbian
    4.92497716 Moldova_South
    8.85467108 Romanian
    8.97460863 Hungarian
    10.47891693 Slovenian
    11.34246446 Bulgarian
    17.16761195 French
    18.74970400 North_European
    19.03972951 Ukranian
    19.87234007 Italian
    19.91679693 Utahn_White1
    20.26574203 Utahn_White2
    22.04024501 British
    22.77879716 Tuscan3
    22.78339307 Tuscan2
    22.99566698 Tuscan1
    24.39335360 Orcadian
    24.77769562 Mordovian
    25.27885084 Spaniard2
    25.62979516 Russian1
    25.72169318 Belorussian
    26.62280226 Spaniard1
    27.61019920 Chuvash

    Distance to: Brother
    2.69360353 Moldova_Centre
    3.34100284 Moldova_North
    4.24372478 Serbian
    5.64095737 Moldova_South
    9.15502048 Romanian
    9.18013072 Hungarian
    10.52914526 Slovenian
    11.49118358 Bulgarian
    18.02618373 French
    18.76643546 Ukranian
    19.12523464 North_European
    20.37205439 Utahn_White1
    20.62755196 Utahn_White2
    20.76461654 Italian
    22.48837922 British
    23.34313604 Tuscan3
    23.37814792 Tuscan2
    23.53612755 Tuscan1
    24.51794853 Mordovian
    24.73845387 Orcadian
    25.31215123 Russian1
    25.45308429 Belorussian
    26.31565124 Spaniard2
    27.56931809 Sintashta
    27.66815498 Spaniard1
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    Name S_Asian N_E_Euro NE_African SW_W_Euro Med_ME N_Asian E_Asian Sub_Saharan SE_Asian W_Asian
    Grandpa 0 42.52 0.83 27.4 13.35 0.43 0 0 0.21 15.26

    Distance to: Grandpa
    1.52198665 Serbian
    2.20587851 Romania_Moldova
    2.45391524 Moldova_Centre
    2.54379638 Moldova
    3.88259192 Bosnian
    4.16717891 Montenegro
    4.37928936 Croat_Bosnia
    4.53352374 Serbian_Bosnia
    4.86031892 Romania_Transylvania
    5.08100384 Romania_Bukovina
    5.10658399 Moldova_North
    5.11643431 Romania
    5.64899991 Romania_Oltenia
    6.19269233 Macedonian
    6.39127989 Croat
    6.72155302 Croat_Herzegovina
    6.86643274 Bulgarian
    8.90684007 Romania_Muntenia
    9.51343786 Moldova_South (very bad average it seems)
    10.07865324 Slovenian
    11.29245434 Gagauz
    11.29362652 Moldova_South_Gagauz
    11.53264085 Hungary
    13.20413572 Turkish_Deliorman
    14.17606045 GermanA



    Grandma

    Name S_Asian N_E_Euro NE_African SW_W_Euro Med_ME N_Asian E_Asian Sub_Saharan SE_Asian W_Asian
    Grandma 0.43 51.94 0 22.07 10.65 2.31 1.29 0 0 11.3

    Distance to: Grandma
    6.27010367 Ukrainian_Tsherkassy
    7.25135677 Croat_Herzegovina
    7.31650873 Moldova_North
    7.51661327 Hungary
    7.55236046 Slovakia
    7.86855133 Romania_Bukovina
    7.87480530 Croat
    7.89100191 Slovenian
    8.54495099 Serbian_Bosnia
    8.61986516 Croat_Bosnia
    8.77675453 Bosnian
    9.32316577 Czech
    9.61333237 GermanA
    10.56459180 Moldova_Centre
    11.31985783 RussianVoronez
    11.53230405 RussianOrjol
    12.23505755 Tatar_Kryashen
    12.23909719 RussianKursk
    12.24404345 Ukrainian_Tshernihov
    12.48432617 Tatar-Mishar
    12.69206839 Moldova
    12.79405769 Belarusian_east-Polesye
    13.27377276 Serbian
    13.28480335 Romania_Moldova
    13.89414754 Belarusian_west-Polesye



    Mum (daughter)

    Name S_Asian N_E_Euro NE_African SW_W_Euro Med_ME N_Asian E_Asian Sub_Saharan SE_Asian W_Asian
    Mum 0.19 47.46 0 24.3 10.7 0.93 0.98 0 0.43 15

    Distance to: Mum
    2.05813022 Moldova_North
    3.23677308 Romania_Bukovina
    3.82483202 Bosnian
    4.28236536 Croat_Bosnia
    4.37357262 Serbian_Bosnia
    4.69509052 Croat_Herzegovina
    4.77008355 Croat
    4.86916831 Moldova_Centre
    6.94335654 Moldova
    7.51642320 Slovenian
    7.63800370 Serbian
    8.09252742 Romania_Moldova
    8.70451636 Hungary
    10.36687142 Montenegro
    10.92490618 Slovakia
    11.04394857 Romania_Transylvania
    11.06958897 Romania
    11.09303756 GermanA
    11.18509276 Czech
    11.52491215 Ukrainian_Tsherkassy
    11.82643226 Romania_Oltenia
    12.00333863 Macedonian
    12.51751411 Bulgarian
    14.06943140 Romania_Muntenia
    14.45406363 German_IL



    Ion Basescul's brother and Ion Basescul (nephews)

    Name S_Asian N_E_Euro NE_African SW_W_Euro Med_ME N_Asian E_Asian Sub_Saharan SE_Asian W_Asian
    Ion Basescul 0 44.77 0 25.45 11.98 0.58 2.58 0 0.38 14.26
    Brother 0.46 46.09 0 22.06 12.09 0.69 0.43 0 1.29 16.89



    Distance to: IonBasescul
    2.85387456 Moldova_North
    3.00992137 Bosnian
    3.19898421 Moldova_Centre
    3.32827283 Romania_Bukovina
    3.63633176 Croat_Bosnia
    3.79049964 Serbian_Bosnia
    4.85513131 Moldova
    5.03911593 Croat
    5.15097806 Croat_Herzegovina
    5.17621764 Serbian
    5.52008152 Romania_Moldova
    7.83658053 Montenegro
    8.31310411 Romania_Transylvania
    8.43251445 Romania
    8.43452653 Slovenian
    9.08340245 Romania_Oltenia
    9.56344654 Macedonian
    9.57938907 Hungary
    10.02580305 Bulgarian
    11.72563858 Romania_Muntenia
    12.29664860 GermanA
    12.47610115 Moldova_South
    12.66327367 Czech
    12.73773849 Slovakia
    14.08198051 Gagauz

    Distance to: Brother
    3.79705149 Romania_Bukovina
    4.13023002 Moldova_North
    4.98655191 Moldova_Centre
    5.30400352 Bosnian
    6.12200131 Moldova
    6.59770480 Croat_Bosnia
    6.69085103 Serbian_Bosnia
    7.68055825 Croat_Herzegovina
    7.73906698 Serbian
    7.87830888 Croat
    7.98943678 Romania_Moldova
    10.08272044 Montenegro
    10.27962548 Romania
    10.56187010 Romania_Transylvania
    10.93116757 Slovenian
    11.05270987 Macedonian
    11.21145085 Bulgarian
    11.22631729 Romania_Oltenia
    12.03437846 Hungary
    12.50352750 Romania_Muntenia
    13.18991660 Moldova_South
    13.76083210 Ukrainian_Tsherkassy
    14.09788761 Slovakia
    14.28138853 Gagauz
    14.28289887 Moldova_South_Gagauz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Needs more results from the South to make such conclusion. He indeed looks northern for the region, especially his Baltic score is very high despite he have also high East Med. Local Bulgarians/Gagauz don't score such high Baltic, only if they are mixed.
    Very high Baltic simply overcompensates for the very low North Atlantic. This can be seen in other calculators that have different Northern or combined Northern components.
    Same goes for high East Med vs low West Asian. If you look at Dodecad K12b, where grandpa has 25% Caucasus and 5% West Asia vs 25% Med or HarrapaWorld with 22% Med and 24% Caucasus + 6% SW Asia, this becomes clearer.
    Unfortunately no calculator is perfect yet and we have to look at the big picture.
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