Africans in Ulcinj

[Varda]

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[Varda]

False, they claim to be Montenegrin and they can be agnostic or not even be believers, don't throw into this region again nonsense religion.

On the last census in 2011 there was 72.07% declared Orthodoxes in Montenegro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...us_structure_3

On same census there was 44.98% Montenegrins and 28.73% Serbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...ontenegro#2011

Percentage of Montenegrins + Serbs is 73.71% which is very similar as percentage of Orthodoxes (72.07%). Conclusion, there was only 1.64% declared Montenegrins/Serbs who are not Orthodoxes (atheists + Muslims + Catholics). Actually, all of that 1.64% are declared Montenegrins. Non-Orthodox Montenegrins exist, but they are very rare.

[Roy]

Interesting, I've heard about black Abkhazians (?) I think but not about those people.

[Varda]

Lucky that it was Ottomans. If it was *W*H*I*T*E* British, there would be 1.000.000 times more jews and blacks.

Luckily Ottoman approach to black Africa was quite limited, unlike western European colonial powers.

Ulcinj Montenegrins are all asimilated Albanians same goes with Bar. I have family in there and Ive never seen black people, would like to see them, lol.
Albin Kurti prime minister of Kosovo is from that area, all his family members changed their surnames to Kurtovic, what a bunch of semen waste.

They doesn't exist today. They were small community which was absorbed by local Albanians. Only few people today can be found in Ulcinj with some African influence and that's all that's left.

[rothaer]

Interesting. Thanks!

My grandfather in 1970s in Chicago met a German from Ruma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruma) who moved to Germany after WW2 and little later migrated to USA. He said many natives in Germany did not like Germans who came from central and eastern Europe after war, and they considered them for some kind of traitors.

Traitor must be a misunderstanding. They were sometimes seen as a burden and in worst case maybe also as intruders. It also was made a burden by a law that somewhat equalized the losses among Germans. So the German refugees and expellees (in Western Germany) got a partly compensation for lost property at expense of these who had real estate property in Western Germany (Lastenausgleichsgesetz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lastenausgleich ). But as a whole this was widely accepted as the German people in vast majority experienced itself as a solidarity community.

Of course people individually may have made different experiences and also bad ones.

All my 4 grandparents are German refugees that ended up in Western Germany. And I never heard of any noteworthy negative experience in that context. Two of them were even lifetime very thankful for all this help they got in Western Germany.

[Hektor12]

Luckily Ottoman approach to black Africa was quite limited, unlike western European colonial powers.

It wasnt limited, in case of slavery. There was free market where black slaves were very cheap. But they always wanted white slaves so it was mostly caucasians and eastern europeans in slave market.

[Varda]

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Name of traditional dance of Africans from Ulcinj is Sharaveli. Today Albanian of Ulcinj carry this dance as own tradition.

[Salty Ears]

Name of traditional dance of Africans from Ulcinj is Sharaveli. Today Albanian of Ulcinj carry this dance as own tradition.

Looks archaic like dance of African tribes or Siberian natives

[Insuperable]

Dritan Abazović is Albanian from Ulcinj and look black influenced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dritan_Abazović

He doesn't look black influenced. Because he has curly hair? C'mon.

[RogueState]