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    Default New Hun, Avar and Hungarian genomes

    Good news for Central Asians and their descendants.

    Whole genome analysis sheds light on the genetic origin of Huns, Avars and conquering Hungarians

    Zoltan Maroti, Endre Neparaczki, Oszkar Schutz, Kitti Maar, Gergelyx I. B. Varga, Bence Kovacs, Tibor Kalmar, Emil Nyerki, Istvan Nagy, Dora Latinovics, Balazs Tihanyi, Antonia Marcsik, Gyorgy Palfi, Zsolt Bernert, Zsolt Gallina, Ciprian Horvath, Sandor Varga, Laszlo Kolto, Istvan Rasko, Peter L. Nagy, Csilla Balogh, Albert Zink, Frank Maixner, Anders Gotherstrom, Robert George, Csaba Szalontai, Gergely Szenthe, Erwin Gall, Attila P. Kiss, Zsofia Racz, Bence Gulyas, Bernadett Ny. Kovacsoczy, Szilard Sandor Gaal, Peter Tomka, Tibor Torok

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    Huns, Avars and conquering Hungarians were Migration Period nomadic groups which arrived in three successive waves in the Carpathian Basin between the 5th and 9th centuries. Based on historical data each of these groups are thought to have arrived from Asia, although their exact origin and relation to other ancient and modern populations has been debated. In this study we have sequenced 9 Hun, 143 Avar and 113 Hungarian conquest period samples, and identified three core populations, representing immigrants from each period, with no recent European ancestry. Our results suggest that this immigrant core of both Huns and Avars originated in present day Mongolia, and their origin can be traced back to Xiongnus. On the other hand, the immigrant core of the conquering Hungarians derived from an earlier admixture of Mansis, early Sarmatians and descendants of late Xiongnus. In addition, we detected shared Hun-related ancestry in numerous Avar and Hungarian conquest period genetic outliers indicating a genetic link between these successive nomadic groups. Aside from the immigrant core groups we identified that the majority of the individuals from each period were local residents, harboring native European ancestry.
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...01.19.476915v1

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    Great. Are there any charts with a basic breakdown of how much Caucasoid (West Eurasian) and Mongoloid (East Eurasian) each group was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Great. Are there any charts with a basic breakdown of how much Caucasoid (West Eurasian) and Mongoloid (East Eurasian) each group was?
    they are all over the place

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    ....ancestry which is still present in Hungarian genetics to this day.




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    Interesting 3 new J-L283, these guys are popping up lately.
    Last edited by Tongio; 01-22-2022 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    they are all over the place
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/STP90ZT.png
    I would prefer a more palatable chart. That map shows a huge range, from Central Europe all the way to the Yakuts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Atlantic View Post
    Interesting 3 new J-L283, these guys are popping up lately.
    Considering J2 has remnants in former Xiongnu lands in north-east China, i expect more of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Considering J2 has remnants in former Xiongnu lands in north-east China, i expect more of them.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...8458604768&z=3

    This lineage has been in the western balkans since bronze age, so these 3 were "natives " to europe (at least paternaly) assimilated by the newcomers from central asia. This seem to be the case with many of the Y DNA in the study.

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    The other thread has been seriously derailed and thus closed (not at my request). So now there is only this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I would prefer a more palatable chart. That map shows a huge range, from Central Europe all the way to the Yakuts!
    EU_Core1 clusters with Langobards from Hungary, Iron Age, Imperial and Medieval individuals from Italy, Minoans and Mycenaeans from Greece

    EU_Core2, 3 and 4 cluster among others with Langobards and Bronze Age samples from Hungary, the Czech Republic and Germany,

    while EU_Core5 clusters with Hungarian Scythians.

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