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Thread: U19 World cup Asian squads ( Afg, Pak, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka)

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    The gap between the Afghan and Pakistani players is incredible. The Afghans range from Balkan-looking to (stereotypically) South Asian-looking. The Pakistanis look roughly half-way between the Afghans and Bangladeshis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    The gap between the Afghan and Pakistani players is incredible. The Afghans range from Balkan-looking to (stereotypically) South Asian-looking. The Pakistanis look roughly half-way between the Afghans and Bangladeshis.
    The last 5 players in the Pak team are all from kpk( pashtuns ) . Some are from towns closer to Punjab than afghanistan , yet I agree in terms of phenotype there seems to be a gulf between them.

    Regarding the afghans , yeah I agree although Imo I see two players who are south Asian passing . For a country that is so close to south Asia it really is incredible how little overlap there is .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    no trolling. I am considering also olive and light brown skin Romanians that are not Roma, there is overlap in looks on more broadly Alpinized Med looks that are passable almost from Portugal to Kashmir... look at futhead photos of Romanian top footballers, half would pass in the Afghan team easily, and I am not hinting at Roma players, Romania has some Oriental touch also beyond that. anyway I am not insisting, just left an opinion. it was a surprise to me as well to see so many familiar faces. easier to pass them when they are not in local traditional clothes
    But Romanians who look like Indians are indeed Roma man . From the Indian team who can pass as non Roma ??? I agree with give afghan team, And it's not a suprise since Romanians and afghans share direct steppe ancestry and some Turkic influences + eef . But the Indian team? You must be joking

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    Interesting thread.
    Afghans seem like Balkanites, sometimes with some minor South Asian influence.
    Pakis seem like an equidistant stabilized blending between Indians and West Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    The last 5 players in the Pak team are all from kpk( pashtuns ) . Some are from towns closer to Punjab than afghanistan , yet I agree in terms of phenotype there seems to be a gulf between them.

    Regarding the afghans , yeah I agree although Imo I see two players who are south Asian passing . For a country that is so close to south Asia it really is incredible how little overlap there is .
    I wouldn't quite put it on par with e.g. Algeria vs Niger or even Egypt vs Sudan, but yes the gap between Iran/Afghanistan vs Pakistan is far bigger than many realise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Interesting thread.
    Some Afghans seem like Balkanites, also some who look South Asian.
    Pakistanis seem like an equidistant stabilized blend of Bangladeshis and Iranians/Afghans.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I wouldn't quite put it on par with e.g. Algeria vs Niger or even Egypt vs Sudan, but yes the gap between Iran/Afghanistan vs Pakistan is far bigger than many realise.
    Actually the first player from the last 5 is from Punjab yet a pashtun . Even he would stick out among indic Paks . Another example is Imran khan .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    I wouldn't quite put it on par with e.g. Algeria vs Niger or even Egypt vs Sudan, but yes the gap between Iran/Afghanistan vs Pakistan is far bigger than many realise.
    Actually you can . Let me explain why

    When you mention Algeria or Egypt , you need to assume that the majority of its population live further up north in the coasts of the country, much farther away from Nigers or Sudan's main cities and population .




    More than 1000 miles separates them .

    On the contrary, the afghan players are almost all from the eastern / north central east / north east of the country



    A mere 200 miles separates them and punjab regions .

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    Are Pakistani from Indian Muhajir origin underrepresented in sports or not ?

    Or put it differently and more largely, for each these South Asian countries, are there within each country, an overrepresentation of certain ethnic groups ?

    For instance, in Latin America, you will see in Ecuador national football team, an overrepresentation of SSA and underrepresentation of 'pure' Native Amerindians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    Are Pakistani from Indian Muhajir origin underrepresented in sports or not ?

    Or put it differently and more largely, for each these South Asian countries, are there within each country, an overrepresentation of certain ethnic groups ?

    For instance, in Latin America, you will see in Ecuador national football team, an overrepresentation of SSA and underrepresentation of 'pure' Native Amerindians.
    Why do you say that? It's very hard to determine who is muahjjir or from east Punjab and who isn't generally speaking. Majority of the times there aren't any ways of telling other than maybe phenotype. Other than that you would have to ask the person or know their full biography .

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