'White people' don't exist or do they ?

[JamesBond007]

And if you want to be coherent you wouldnt make the cut at 3% because it is not too far from 5% and 5% is not too far from 12%. alnortedelsur is african and amerindian combined 11% some consider him white, a minority doesnt consider him white. To be coherent you need to say 100% or nothing.

Ok, but I look 100% NorthWest European and some reputable DNA tests such as the British LivingDNA or Genetic Ancestry with Haplogroups by Complete Genome Science are saying I'm 100% European meanwhile amateur tools like G25 and GEDmatch may say I'm only about 97% European but walking down the street I look 100% European anthropometrically and no one on the street is going to DNA test me.

[Mortimer]

Ok, but I look 100% NorthWest European and some reputable DNA tests such as the British LivingDNA or Genetic Ancestry with Haplogroups Complete Genome Science are saying I'm 100% European meanwhile amateur tools like G25 and GEDmatch may say I'm only about 97% European but walking down the street I look 100% European anthropometically and no one on the street is going to DNA test me.

There are people who look 100% European with 25% non-white. I sometimes passed down the street for austrian, im 0% austrian.

[Peterski]

Yeah but we know now that is because of some caucasian back migration.

No it is not.

The divergence of Negroids from Capoids (Bushmen) and "Bambutids" (Pygmies) predates any human presence outside of Africa.

So it could not be due to any back-migration. Those people all lived in Africa when they diverged enough to become distinct races.

And that was in times when Europe was still 100% Neanderthal-inhabited.

[Mortimer]

Even your look is relative, because someone might say you look turkish but to someone else you look spanish or italian. In Budapest me and even my mum (both of us together) where mistaken for italian.

[Peterski]

As i said, you can include it as "another race", but then a lot of mesolithic natives wouldn't be white as they harbor a lot of ANE and even moderns.

Actually ANE is more white than WHG.

ANE population was Caucasoid (in terms of bone structure), it had blonde hair mutation, and it had light skin mutations.

The earliest ANE probably did not have the latter two, but these mutations became present among Late ANE population.

[Mortimer]

Archie looks white to me, I dont know what he will look as adult though.

[Petalpusher]

Do you have any evidence to support this statement (numbers of mutations etc.)? It even sounds arrogant, you lumped all non-whites together.

If you think that conditions in Europe were especially harsh due to the cold climate then at least Mongoloids lived in even harsher, colder crlimate.

Simply the greater diversity in looks of West Eurasians. Just compare it to East Asian, West Africans and Australoids, they all look the same.

[JamesBond007]

Why are you so obsessed with this point, you've repeated it for years like it's a novel idea you thought up yourself. Is it all a reaction to getting 1% SSA on AncestryDNA?

Am I obsessed with it ? Does it make up a majority my posts on this forum ?

No, originally AncestryDNA had me 100% European but then one day changed to 1% SSA but again AncestryDNA is run by Mormons so I don't trust them because they are not mainline protestants. I might be 1% SSA but it is not clear because MyHeritage says it 1.7% Asian rather than SSA. LivingDNA says I'm 100% European and 97.9% British isles and Genetic Ancestry with Haplogroups
by Complete Genome Science says I'm 100% European too.

It is not clear that I am 1% SSA but it seems most science outside of physics is politically motivated statistical manipulation and that includes genetic tests or ethnicity genetic tests or ancestry genetic tests.

My point in questioning this is not be obsessed with it per se I'm just trying to ascertain if social class and ethnicity are more important than 'whiteness' or whatever because it seems to be the case to me.

[Peterski]

Just compare it to East Asian, West Africans and Australoids, they all look the same.

I think you are exaggerating.

Surely you have seen more of non-whites in real life than me, because you live in France. But it is possible that you saw only a small subset of East Asians for example (maybe only Japanese, or only Northern Han, etc.) and a small subset of West Africans (e.g. only people from former French colonies in West Africa).

As for Australoids: Papuans vs. Australians look very different, even though they separated just 8000 years ago when the Sahul continent was flooded.

At least this is what Wiki claims that New Guinea separated from Australia only 8K years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahul_(continent)

[Petalpusher]

No it is not.

The divergence of Negroids from Capoids (Bushmen) and "Bambutids" (Pygmies) predates any human presence outside of Africa.

So it could not be due to any back-migration. Those people all lived in Africa when they diverged enough to become distinct races.

And that was in times when Europe was still 100% Neanderthal-inhabited.

Pygmees are a dwarf tribe and bushmen are cold adapted, they likely come from an even earlier back migration. Like they were several OoA, there were several back migrations in the last 500k. The rest is all due to more recent back migrations and can be considered part of the modern African genesis. You can make ancedotical subraces of Africans if you want but Africans as whole are one of the distinct main race.

I think you are exaggerating.

I think you are nitpicking. "Encule les mouches" as we say here (fucking flies)