Are the Scots Germanic?

[Redar14]

Majority modern Anglo- Saxons are germanized Celts! They are different than pure germanics nations from Scandinavia! You should look at this maps!





Ancient Celtic tribes:

[Wulfhere]

All the most successful societies are Germanic-Celtic hybrids. This includes all the nations of the British Isles, plus Iceland, and also, now, includes places such as Australia.

Why this particular hybrid is such a successful one is an interesting discussion in itself.

[Sylvanus]

Scots are a prae-IE population invaded by many IE wave (celts, romans, west-germanics, north-germanics). But they lost their ancient pre-IE languege.

This map is a romantic-nationalist carp coz the celts never make an empire. They settled many location of Europe (and Asia!) but they never create coherent territory. I guess in many places of Europe survived the pre-IE languages till the roman or the germanic/slavic conquer. By the way the basque survive till nowadays...

[Hevneren]

This of course doesn't include the Anglo Scandinavians which raped and pillaged Scotland in the late 900s,

What's an Anglo Scandinavian???

[rhiannon]

What's an Anglo Scandinavian???

A good question, because I've never heard that term before.

As far as the OP:
In my personal opinion, based on what I understand about history of the British Isles/Ireland in general, and on the research I've done over the years, I believe all of those lands to have had significant Germanic/Norse influence. The Angles/Saxons/Jutes were among the first wave of Germanic invaders who intermingled with the Native Britons/Celts/Picts already living there during about the 5th century or thereabouts. Though the heaviest influence might have been in what is now England, I can only imagine they went all over the island(s).

Then came the Vikings in about the 8-9th centuries. They also invaded those lands at numerous entry points all over. Many of the Vikings remained behind and also intermarried with the CeltoGermanics (descendants of the earlier invasions) already living there.

Then the Normans came...who were of Viking/French ancestry and THEY settled there and mixed in with the natives.

This sort of thing happened all over the Isles. Thus, it seems to me that the British Isles in general are probably about equal parts CeltoGermanic I include Norse under the umbrella term of Germanic...but if we wish to get technical....the British Isles are generally Breton (think Beaker peoples)/Celtic/Germanic/Norse

Just my understanding of it all. It's no wonder I'm so confused about my own ancestry....I have ancestry in all four nations of the Isles.

[Hevneren]

All the most successful societies are Germanic-Celtic hybrids. This includes all the nations of the British Isles, plus Iceland, and also, now, includes places such as Australia.

Why this particular hybrid is such a successful one is an interesting discussion in itself.

Yet, we Scandinavians still had an empire centuries before you English.

[AntonyCapolongo]

Scots are British. They descend from the Picts (Iberians) and Gaels (Irish).
In fact "Celtic" doesn't mean anything. But I think that Scots aren't Germanic. Sure, Lowlands have a Germanic languages (Scots), and of course, majority of Scots speak English, but it doesn't mean that they're Germanics.

[Unurautare]

Yes,I consider them Germanic.

Also the language of most of the Scots is Germanic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

A Scottish Government study (2010) found that 85% of respondents (being a representative sample of Scotland's adult population) claim to speak Scots to varying degrees

@Sylvanus +1

[Mordid]

Nothing to do with Germanic sorry, But if you go far back you would find that they are Celtic. Not just that but Ireland and Scotland are one in the same, as in a people i mean. Although many centuries has passed that today they are totally different cultures, and as such are now two different people (i.e.) Irish and Scottish....

[Hevneren]

A good question, because I've never heard that term before.

As far as the OP:
In my personal opinion, based on what I understand about history of the British Isles/Ireland in general, and on the research I've done over the years, I believe all of those lands to have had significant Germanic/Norse influence. The Angles/Saxons/Jutes were among the first wave of Germanic invaders who intermingled with the Native Britons/Celts/Picts already living there during about the 5th century or thereabouts. Though the heaviest influence might have been in what is now England, I can only imagine they went all over the island(s).

Then came the Vikings in about the 8-9th centuries. They also invaded those lands at numerous entry points all over. Many of the Vikings remained behind and also intermarried with the CeltoGermanics (descendants of the earlier invasions) already living there.

Then the Normans came...who were of Viking/French ancestry and THEY settled there and mixed in with the natives.

This sort of thing happened all over the Isles. Thus, it seems to me that the British Isles in general are probably about equal parts CeltoGermanic I include Norse under the umbrella term of Germanic...but if we wish to get technical....the British Isles are generally Breton (think Beaker peoples)/Celtic/Germanic/Norse

Just my understanding of it all. It's no wonder I'm so confused about my own ancestry....I have ancestry in all four nations of the Isles.

Yes, the Angles, Saxons and Jutes came first, and for some reason we today put Angles and Saxons into one "pot" and call them Anglo-Saxons. But I digress! They stayed and intermarried with each other and with the Celts.

The Norse first came as invaders, stealing whatever there was of worth, and taking Celtic (and probably Anglian, Saxon and Jutish) women with them home. However, later on many Norse settled down as farmers in the British isles and married local women, and some brought their entire families with them, who then grew up and married locals.

The Normans came in 1066, in a third "Germanic wave" over the British isles. The Franks were once a Germanic people, although they were later mixed with the neighbouring Celts. I don't know how mixed thy were in 1066 though. Anyway, they too settled down and intermarried.

Anyway, I've been told that in the Scottish lowlands you'll find heavy Germanic admixture, just as you will in England. The Scottish highlands, Ireland and Wales might be different. The Scots dialects (not to be confused with Gaelic) are Germanic in origin.

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Some of the words in the above clip sounds like modern Dutch. The word "hoose" also sounds like Norwegian "hus". In this dialect (Doric Scots), they say "reicht" , meaning "real", and "reicht" looks and sounds very German ("recht" means "right" in German). They say "lauchen" for "laugh", which is very similar to German "lachen" ("laugh"). There's "bothie", meaning "mall house", which resembles Norwegian "bod", which is a small storage space. There are several Scots words that I as a Norwegian recognise.