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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Your grandma was obviously half German. Looks like first generation mix of SW Slav with German: maybe that's why you look a bit western shifted?
    Half German yes, but other side is bit more complicated. I know for sure she was 1/4 Serb, and she should be 1/8 Greek (her grandfather was called Alexander Demetros, his father should be fully Greek, mother unknown)
    SW Slavs don't score Greece/Albania (people from Croatia and Bosnia as a rule get zero), especially not such amount. They get heavy Balkan and bit of EE.

    But my remining 1/8 could absolutely be SW Slav by looking at these results, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    you have to allow for regional variation, a German in Eastern Europe or the Balkans won't score as one in Germany
    Not really. Unmixed Danube Swabians score same as Germans in Germany. However her German side does not look fully SW German. She gets too much of Scandinavia and bit of EE too. But that could be explained with one of my German surnames which isn't southern but central German and minor part of Banat Swabians came from central Germany - now known as east Germany)

    Greeks in northern Balkans may have some local mix dragging them north etc.
    so, based on regional variation, an additional source, like Romanian, is not necessarily needed, it can be covered by variation in the other sources, as needed, be it to south/north/west/east..
    Not exactly. My grandmother grand-grandfather was immigrant from Greece according to what we know, there are no autochtonous Greeks in Hungary. They were just merchants and bankers in big cities like Budapest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I tried to assigned this score to most logical ancestry:

    1/2 German (28% Germanic Europe, 9% Sweden/Denmark, 2% Norway, 2% England/NW Europe, 9% EE)
    1/4 Serb (probably around 21-22% Balkan and 2-4% EE)
    1/8 Greek (7% Greece/Albania, 5% Balkan)
    1/8 unknown (remaining 10-12% Balkan and possible 0-2% EE)
    Yes and that implies the unknown part to have had abt. 80-90% Balkans (AncestryDNA). My consideration is this: Out of all Orthodox people (suitable to mingle with an Orthodox Greek) maybe a Serb could do it even better than a Romanian.
    Actually, what you do assign to the unknown 1/8 has almost exactly the Balkan/EE proportions that you assigned to the Serb 1/4.
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    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
    19.2 Celtic-like
    1.8 Graeco-Roman
    0.2 Finnic-like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Yes, but mix with Greeks occured in Budapest, than descendant came to Vojvodina. Budapest had all kinds of orthodox Balkanites, Romanians, Serbs, Bulgarians, probably also Aromanians.
    It I deduce EE and Balkan from Serb side, than remaining 1/8 could score 100% Balkan or 98% Balkan 2% EE on ancestry.

    (and part of EE goes to central German side ofc, plus minor part of Balkan goes into Greek 1/8)
    Budapest never had any notable Orthodox population. We have censuses for the whole city beginning with 1869 and that's when they had the highest percentage, 0.7%. As a curiosity even in 1930 20% were of Jewish religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Budapest never had any notable Orthodox population. We have censuses for the whole city beginning with 1869 and that's when they had the highest percentage, 0.7%. As a curiosity even in 1930 20% were of Jewish religion.
    Maybe they converted, idk. In any case, admix does not look Hungarian, it's too Balkan. All of these had presence in Budapest, Croats too, but I assume orthodox Greek immigrant will prefer to marry another orthodox, at least in first generation.
    This is all speculation for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Yes and that implies the unknown part to have had abt. 80-90% Balkans (AncestryDNA). My consideration is this: Out of all Orthodox people (suitable to mingle with an Orthodox Greek) maybe a Serb could do it even better than a Romanian.
    Actually, what you do assign to the unknown 1/8 has almost exactly the Balkan/EE proportions that you assigned to the Serb 1/4.
    Yes. Remaining 1/8 looks identical in score to my Serb 1/4.

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    Obviously grandma is 37.5% Serb, that means Stearsolina is 9.375% Serb.
    Quite a lot for her, I would say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Obviously grandma is 37.5% Serb, that means Stearsolina is 9.375% Serb.
    Quite a lot for her, I would say
    It is absolutely possible based on these results I must admit

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    Looks 60% Balkan, 40% Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art23 View Post
    Looks 60% Balkan, 40% Germanic.
    No, it doesn't. Part of Eastern European is from German side, which is far from pure Germanic (lots of Celtic and minor Slavic).
    Result looks half German half Balkan, of which is known part is Serb and part Greek, and 1/8 remains unknown.

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