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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Spengler predicted all of this 100 years ago.
    Oh Spengler, Jünger, Mohler are my guys.

    I follow the "Konservative Revolution" and their successors today like Kubitschek.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Oh Spengler, Jünger, Mohler are my guys.

    I follow the "Konservative Revolution" and their successors today like Kubitschek.

    I have Man and Technics at home.

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    Basierter Tooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Basierter Tooting
    But he says things that (contemporary) right-wingers wouldn't like: he puts a lot of emphasis on climate change, resource depletion and the disappearance of (genuine) cultural diversity globally, and he also called the United States a very conformist and even dictatorial society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    But he says things that (contemporary) right-wingers wouldn't like: he puts a lot of emphasis on climate change, resource depletion and the disappearance of (genuine) cultural diversity globally, and he also called the United States a very conformist and even dictatorial society.
    American right wingers or anglo right wingers are different to the followers of the "konservative revolution" and that the German right.

    Ofc it switched post 1945 and the German right wing turned to follow american political theories, which also influenced my for a veeeeery long time.
    But the ground of our right wing has appreciation for social issues and issues of environment(Which are not connected to the Co2 issue for me and many), Bismarck pioneered welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    American right wingers or anglo right wingers are different to the followers of the "konservative revolution" and that the German right.

    Ofc it switched post 1945 and the German right wing turned to follow american political theories, which also influenced my for a veeeeery long time.
    But the ground of our right wing has appreciation for social issues and issues of environment(Which are not connected to the Co2 issue for me and many), Bismarck pioneered welfare.
    Yeah I've noticed you're not fond of American right-wing politics and ideas like you used to be. If anything you've become a bit more like The Lawspeaker, who always took a more continental/corporatist/Third Positionist approach, and thus you two used to argue quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Yeah I've noticed you're not fond of American right-wing politics and ideas like you used to be. If anything you've become a bit more like The Lawspeaker, who always took a more continental/corporatist/Third Positionist appraoch, and thus you two used to argue quite a lot.
    What have I become my sweetest friend


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    Another one from much earlier on I do have some time for is Johann Gottfried Von Herder, who is wrongly nowadays defamed as a proto-Nazi, when in fact he vehemently opposed the notions of racial hierarchy and White Man's Burden. Instead, he believed that each people, or nation, is special and beautiful in its own right.

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    I don't have that much time but I'll try.

    1 Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism,
    so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.
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    Yes but leftism is just some abstract polarization. What we primarily lack is clear thinking.
    2 The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "over-socialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole,
    while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.
    Again, I'm not sure about the definition of leftism, but yes, we have digital filtered "over-socialization". I would also use "feeling or expression of repression" rather than inferiority, these people are usually of high ego.

    3By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strictest sense but a whole spectrum of related traits:
    low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have such feelings (possibly more or less repressed)
    and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.
    I'm not sure, this inferiority feeling is still used as a weapon.

    4 When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem.
    'this tendency is pronounced among minority rights advocates, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend.
    'they are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," 'handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian,
    a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents of "guy," "dude" or "fellow."
    TIhe negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights advocates have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and insist on its replacement
    by "animal companion." Leftist anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative.
    'They want to replace the word "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own.
    (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)
    Again, I'm not sure. Sure it's true about some people but many used it as a weapon.

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    5 Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person,
    but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society.
    Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual, white males from middle-class families.
    Totally agree, it's mostly people that want or have brainwashed to believe that they are making a change but scared to actually fight for one, when many minorities don't take offence or are even proud.

    6 Many leftists have an sesitive identification with the problems of groups that have an image of twing weak (women defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) , or otherwise inferior.
    The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit it to themselves that they have such feelings,
    but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems.
    (We do not suggest that women, Indians, etc„ ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology).
    Sure, most of the time. A very small minority is maybe honestly oversensitive.
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    7 Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.
    Possibly but there have been no doubt strong working women, the latest feminist waves promote strength through whoryness and consumerism aka weakness.
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    8 Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality.
    The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth,
    but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist;
    whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization.
    Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.
    Yep.
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    9 Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative", "enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary.
    The leftist is anti-individualistic, Pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs them, take care of them.
    He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs.
    The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.
    Somewhat disagree, it may be true about old-shool communists but modern "leftists" look for individual status.

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    10 Art forms that appeal to modern leftist intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone,
    throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.
    Sure

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    11 Modern leftist philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative.
    It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined.
    But it is obvious that modern leftist philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge.
    They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs.
    For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power.
    More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e„ successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e. failed, inferior).
    The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior.
    This also under-lies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests.
    Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others.
    Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but societfs, because he has not been brought up properly.
    500%, modern philosophers are try hard edgy types, up to the Rennaisance most of prominent philosophers were also notable scientists/mathematicians.

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    12 The leftist is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor.
    This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong,
    and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior. But the leftist is too far gone for that. His feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as
    individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.
    Disagree about modern leftists, ego is the motivating power before mutual understanding.
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    13 Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc.
    These tactics may often effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.
    Quite agree
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    14 Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principle, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type.
    But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power.
    Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help.
    For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms?
    Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action
    discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal.
    Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power.
    In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.
    Sure
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    15 If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.
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    Yes, especially socially problems you can fight without moving away from the keyboard.

    16 We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.

    Yes, leftist may be too simple. It's chaotic unethical capitalism mixed with the most utopic irrational elements of collectivism/communism.

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    Now that I've had time to read through this, here are my thoughts

    I agree with most of what he is saying however I don't fully agree with number 3. I don't think a "sense of inferiority" is what is driving the left, I believe it is guilt and it's been conditioned into American's minds since primary school. Every single year we are taught about slavery, the holocaust, and the Europeans destroying the Native American population. In NO WAY am I trying to downplay any of these historical events, but the primary focus is always on how (white people) are responsible for the atrocities and deaths of minorities in race, and religion. They drill in our heads, "We must learn from this and never let it happen again!" And what I realized is that they hardly ever taught us that this has happened constantly throughout history and in other parts of the world. Now add in over-socialization and diversity into the mix. Anglos start to become aware of the stereotypical differences between race and classism. It makes sense that some may feel some kind of guilt when they realize their friends haven't been fed with a silver spoon like them. I believe this is what causes them to advocate for rights that don't pertain to them and what drives them for political correctness. I think it fuels the ego because they feel as if they are doing the right thing.


    The bonus is funny, and it has a lot of truth to it. It hit home with me because I will catch myself daydreaming about the future and what it holds, yet I am not willing to go through the changes and progression to get there.
    What’s done in darkness will come to light

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