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[Leto]

Why is k13 showing so high west med/west asia/east med, cause of some ukrainian / southwestern russian ancestry? And what do u think about MDLP K16? It kinda seems to me it shows more western results than it should, the version of k16 from yourdnaportal shows same thing with poles being closest

The East Med is not high at all, 4% is pretty much average or not too far from the average. 11% West Med is slightly higher than average but my guess is that some of the North Atlantic might have gone into the West Med. The West Asian is not super high either, my brother-in-law scores the same amount, he's 100% Russian, not even part Ukrainian or Belorussian. All of his ancestry is exclusively from European Russia. In general, yes khokhols would often score some more Mediterranean and North Atlantic and a bit less Baltic. I can assure you your overall results are not atypical by any means. Every ethnic group has some variation and a certain range.

K16 has a good reference panel but I don't like the components.

[Polischuk]

The East Med is not high at all, 4% is pretty much average or not too far from the average. 11% West Med is slightly higher than average but my guess is that some of the North Atlantic might have gone into the West Med. The West Asian is not super high either, my brother-in-law scores the same amount, he's 100% Russian, not even part Ukrainian or Belorussian. All of his ancestry is exclusively from European Russia. In general, yes khokhols would often score some more Mediterranean and North Atlantic and a bit less Baltic. I can assure you your overall results are not atypical by any means. Every ethnic group has some variation and a certain range.

K16 has a good reference panel but I don't like the components.

It looks to me that most ppl with ukrainian+russian ancestry score southwestern russians or Ukrainian -russian /Ukrainian Belgorod in eurogenes, at least in my experience with ppl I know. I havent seen really many tho. But my ukrainain ancestry is from northern n northwestern Ukraine, should be very different from Lvov or Central Ukraine and its only like 3/8 of closest ancestry. Guess its just from more southern/western russian groups

[Leto]

It looks to me that most ppl with ukrainian+russian ancestry score southwestern russians or Ukrainian -russian /Ukrainian Belgorod in eurogenes, at least in my experience with ppl I know. I havent seen really many tho. But my ukrainain ancestry is from northern n northwestern Ukraine, should be very different from Lvov or Central Ukraine and its only like 3/8 of closest ancestry. Guess its just from more southern/western russian groups

Well, regardless of those numbers you have no foreign ancestry since Ukrainian or Belorussian ancestry is not and should not be considered foreign in Russia. Fuck the political division, we're all one historically. Those minute details are not very important at the end of the day.

[Polischuk]

Well, regardless of those numbers you have no foreign ancestry since Ukrainian or Belorussian ancestry is not and should not be considered foreign in Russia. Fuck the political division, we're all one historically. Those minute details are not very important at the end of the day.

Well, i dont like regionalism and dividing east slavs into groups, but local substrate and colonisation routes had differences, at the end of the day we r very homogeneous conparing to many other nations, but knowing where u belong localy is good sometimes

[Polischuk]

Well, regardless of those numbers you have no foreign ancestry since Ukrainian or Belorussian ancestry is not and should not be considered foreign in Russia. Fuck the political division, we're all one historically. Those minute details are not very important at the end of the day.

Oh, wanted to ask if u have some central Russian K13 results or kits, from Vladimir, Yaroslavl or Suzdal and western from Tver. I havent seen many, esp without roots from other russian regions.

[Leto]

Well, i dont like regionalism and dividing east slavs into groups, but local substrate and colonisation routes had differences, at the end of the day we r very homogeneous conparing to many other nations, but knowing where u belong localy is good sometimes

I agree and didn't say it was irrelevant or not worth discussing. But you are a full Russian nonetheless. That's the most important thing.

Oh, wanted to ask if u have some central Russian K13 results or kits, from Vladimir, Yaroslavl or Suzdal and western from Tver. I havent seen many, esp without roots from other russian regions.

I have all sorts of kits but I collect them in Dodecad K12b format and honestly I don't feel like posting stuff on the forum. Maybe sometime in the future.

[Polischuk]

I agree and didn't say it was irrelevant or not worth discussing. But you are a full Russian nonetheless. That's the most important thing.

I have all sorts of kits but I collect them in Dodecad K12b format and honestly I don't feel like posting stuff on the forum. Maybe sometime in the future.

Mayhe u pm me or send via telegram, pls pls?)))/

[Karol Klačansky]

Do you have G25 coordinates?

[Polischuk]

Do you have G25 coordinates?

Only for Raw data file with 23andMe V5 version, which sucks, it contains less information which is significant for the result. I have V3 version file which is better but havent bought coordinates for it and now i cant pay anything online cause russian banks r under sanctions.
With V5 version file on gedmatch i have 5-7 distances to closest populations, with V3 it gives 2-5.

[Polischuk]

In G25 PC app it shows me russian_Kursk as closest population. But again, the format is less informative, so if it would be V3 version result could be slightly different.