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    The Golden Verses of Pythagoras 11 - 20

    11. Do nothing evil, neither in the presence of others, nor privately;
    12. But above all things respect yourself.
    13. In the next place, observe justice in your actions and in your words.
    14. And do not accustom yourself to behave yourself in any thing without rule, and without reason.
    15. But always make this reflection, that it is ordained by destiny that all men shall die.
    16. And that the goods of fortune are uncertain; and that just as they may be acquired, they may likewise be lost.
    17. Concerning all the calamities that men suffer by divine fortune,
    18. Support your lot with patience, it is what it may be, and never complain at it.
    19. But endeavour what you can to remedy it.
    20. And consider that fate does not send the greatest portion of these misfortunes to good men.

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    To me, nothing resumes human nature better and hence, our whole history, than this quote from Protagoras:

    «Of all things the measure is Man, of the things that are, that they are, and of the things that are not, that they are not

    Or simplified:

    «Man is the Measure of All Things.»

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    The Golden Verses of Pythagoras 21 - 30

    21. There are many sorts of reasonings among men, good and bad;
    22. Do not admire them too easily, nor reject them.
    23. But if falsehoods are advanced, hear them with mildness, and arm yourself with patience.
    24. Observe well, on every occasion, what I am going to tell you:
    25. Do not let any man either by his words, or by his deeds, ever seduce you.
    26. Nor lure you to say or to do what is not profitable for yourself.
    27. Consult and deliberate before you act, that you may not commit foolish actions.
    28. For it is the part of a miserable man to speak and to act without reflection.
    29. But do the thing which will not afflict you afterwards, nor oblige you to repentance.
    30. Never do anything which you do not understand.

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    The Golden Verses of Pythagoras 31 - 39

    31. But learn all you ought to know, and by that means you will lead a very pleasant life.
    32. In no way neglect the health of your body;
    33. But give it drink and food in due measure, and also the exercise of which it needs.
    34. Now by measure I mean what will not discomfort you.
    35. Accustom yourself to a way of living that is neat and decent without luxury.
    36. Avoid all things that will occasion envy.
    37. And do not be prodigal out of season, like someone who does not know what is decent and honourable.
    38. Neither be covetous nor stingy; a due measure is excellent in these things.
    39. Only do the things that cannot hurt you, and deliberate before you do them.

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    Democritus

    1-If thou suffer injustice, console yourself; the true unhappiness is doing it.
    2-It is greed to do all the talking, but not to want to listen at all.
    3-Many much learned men have no intelligence.

    I am still searching through the immense hellenic sources I can find, Democritus is one of few besides Plato and Aristotle whose sayings are not less inpsiring than any other philosophers through the ages. He is well-knowned as an atheist but for his part of being a renegade to his immediate heritage, he had his credits of insights into the faults of his own time and heritage. Short quotes and sayings have been a part of hellenic tradition in learning as well, it is not just our a popular internet culture. Ancient people who professed in it is called as "aphorists", they just propose short mottos and aphorisms as their main course of teaching and learning. We can as well take such motto making and readings as a part of our own dabbling into thinking processes.

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    Plato burned the books of Democritus. Democrats, and in particular, Soros’s spiritual guru Popper, in his catechism The Open Society and its Enemies, call to burn the books of Plato. Popper says directly: either enemies of the open society, liberal democracy, the second thesis of the Parmenides, or friends. This is a true war of hypotheses, a battle of epistemologies, a struggle of gnoseological paradigms, a fight of ideas.

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    The Golden Verses of Pythagoras 40 - 51

    40. Never allow sleep to close your eyelids, after you’ve gone to bed,
    41. Until you have examined all your actions of the day by your reason.
    42. In what have I done wrong? What have I done? What have I omitted that I ought to have done?
    43. If in this examination you find that you have done wrong, reprove yourself severely for it;
    44. And if you have done any good, rejoice.
    45. Practise thoroughly all these things; meditate on them well; you ought to love them with all your heart.
    46. It is those that will put you in the way of divine virtue.
    47. I swear it by he who has transmitted into our souls the Sacred Quaternion, the source of nature, whose cause is eternal.
    48. But never begin to set your hand to any work, until you have first prayed the gods to accomplish what you are going to begin.
    49. When you have made this habit familiar to you,
    50. You will know the constitution of the Immortal Gods and of men.
    51. Even how far the different beings extend, and what contains and binds them together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarisregvm View Post
    Plato burned the books of Democritus. Democrats, and in particular, Soros’s spiritual guru Popper, in his catechism The Open Society and its Enemies, call to burn the books of Plato. Popper says directly: either enemies of the open society, liberal democracy, the second thesis of the Parmenides, or friends. This is a true war of hypotheses, a battle of epistemologies, a struggle of gnoseological paradigms, a fight of ideas.
    Democritus is a brilliant thinker based on deducation and induction. Plato is a founder of western theological philosophies, zionists are majorly anthropocentrist insectoids which want to live like overpopulating insects/pests which “conquer”/ravaging everything on their way by sheer number and the brute force of hive instincts. Let me show you how brilliant Democritus is:

    (Aristotle, In Generation and Corruption)
    "Democritus alone expressed a view of his own different from the others: he says what acts and what is acted upon are the same and alike-it is not possible for items which are other to be acted upon by one another; rather even if different items act upon one another, it is not insofar as they are different but insofar as they have something the same in common that this comes about."

    --Extract from book "Early Greek Philosophy", Penguin Classics, Entry-Democritus, Page 214.

    This statement implies the universal share of gravitation, electrons, protons, forces that perveat all matters we have seen coming togather and influence each other universally. He is known and famous for his prediction of atoms, but obviously he also predicted the universal forces as we know today as: gravity, strong and weak nuclear forces, electromagnetism.

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    «Heraclitus attacked Hesiod for counting some days as good, others as bad, because he did not recognize that the nature of every day is one.» (Plutarch)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    «We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school.» (Archidamus)
    Been thinking of this quote a lot since I first saw it here a week ago, great quote.

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