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Actual name, Alexander Banian, an Armenian, Al Banian to friends and family, thus the jump to a wrong conclusion.
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The ancient Macedonians were not Greeks.
The Greeks saw them as northern Barbarians.
Most likely, he was of the ancient Illyrian tribes
that fragmented over time.
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They already spoke and wrote Greek well before 600 and were allready Hellenised by 2000 BC, so if they were not Greek that was before 2000 BC when proto-Greek hadn’t already been formed yet and the whole Greece, Balkans and Anatolia spoke still a common language. How can you say that after 2000 years of Hellenism they were not Greek.Originally Posted by Danica
We know that by 500 BC they were considered Hellenic and they could take part in the Olympic Games and the entire Macedonian royal family was descended from the Argive monarchy who were Dorian Greeks and Alexander called himself a Greek when he betrayed the Persians to the Athenians.
Alexander was also descended via the Argive Monarchy, to the Greek Hyksos which ruled Egypt. He had descend through Herakles from Danus and Aegyptus the sons of Belus the son of Lybia the daughter of Epaphus pharaoh of Egypt.
This is why the Egyptians told Alexander the Great he was the son of Ammon since Alexander was a descendent of Aegyptus the brother of Danaus and father of Lynceus, the father of Abas, father of Acrisius, father of Perseus, father of Alcaeus, father of Amphitryon, father of Herakles, father of Hyllus, father of Cleodeus, father of Aristomachus, father of Temenus king of Argos from whom Alexander was descended.
The Egyptians worshipped Apis the king of Argos as a God and a Greek Pharaoh of Egypt. Their own records show that Epaphus (Apepi I) and Apis (Apepi II) were both Greek Hyksos kings who ruled Egypt at exactly the same time the Greek historians always said they did at the time of the Thera Eruption which brought about the Ogygian Deluge. Amenhotep referred to Danaoi as Greeks. Danus was a descended from Inarchus as was Pelasgus and Aigialeus. Tutmoses III refers to the Argives as Danaoi and names their cities Mycenae and Amyclae.
The Greeks and Romans referred to anyone they didn’t like as barbarians. The Macedonians were barbarians in the political sense. The Spartans were also referred to as barbarians by the Athenians. And the Pelasgians were referred to as barbarians by the Hellenes, even though they were the same people. Their difference was that their royal line was descended by Pelasgus and Grecus, while the Hellenic royal line descended from Hellene. The Dorains split from the Pelasgains in 1700 BC and settled in Macedonia and Thessaly and in 1500 BC the Mycenaean's entered the Peloponnese and split from the Proto-Ionians who remained in Atttica.The Greeks saw them as northern Barbarians.
The Illyrians did not exist by that name until 1390 BC when Cadmus colonised Illyria with his Greek tribe of Enchellenes and until his son Cadmus founded Illyria. The Dorian Macedni were already in the Greek peninsula in 1500 BC since they were part of the original wave of Hellenic migration which occurred in 1900 BC and their movements in Phthiotis, Thessay, Aetolia and Thesprotia from 1460 up to and including 1100 BC when they conquered the Peloponnese are recorded by Herodotus.Most likely, he was of the ancient Illyrian tribes
Most unlikely, because no traces of Illyrian, or Thracian, Scythian or even Phrygian civilisation have been found in Macedonia.Most likely, he was of the ancient Illyrian tribes
that fragmented over time.
The only evidence of civilisation in Macedonia is that of Hellenic Civilisation. The only traces of Language is that of Greek. No other traces have been found. You are speculating and you dont even have any evidence to present to back up your speculation.
They used coinage which was Greek, they wrote inscriprtions in Greek, they spoke to other Greeks in yes Greek. No mention of them speaking in or writing in any other language exists. There is no linguistic evidence they ever spoke any other dialect than Greek. Alexander was Dorian and Aeolian by decent and we know from Herodotus that the Macedni were a Dorian tribe at the time of Cadmus.
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Region Macedon
Era 1st millennium BC[1]
Language family
Indo-European
Hellenic[2][3]
Macedonian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancien...onian_language
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How about you provide credible evidence that Albanians existed at that time. We know that native Greek tribes like the Chaones lived in Albania at that time, as well as Greek colonists from other parts of Greece.
The Illyrians were a collection of tribes often unrelated to each other and Greeks used the collective term Illyrians to refer to all the tribes that lived in the region they called it Illyria, and that included the Greek tribe of Enchellenes.
Nor have the Albanians a monopoly on Illyrians anymore than Serbs, Croats and other peoples of that region have.
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If by Northern European you mean the Steppe people or the R1 lineage which mixed with the native J2 and E-13 that existed in the Balkans, Greece and Anatolia. But that mix occured 5000 years ago millenia before the Dorian invasions.
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it is understandable that some one who had never worked on wikipedia...
...might be unfamiliar with the processes.
Not that crapipedia has any credibility at all since anyone can edit it.
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