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    He was the Greek king Ogygus who ruled over all of Greece from Athens to the Bospherous, Balkans and all of Asia-Minor and Palestine down to Egypt and over Scythia and and Italy too.

    He ruled Greece, except Peloponnesus which was ruled by Phoroneus.

    Since Noah is Ogygus this places Noah's Flood at this time. The bible also gives the same date more or less for Noah. which caused a massive tidal wave and the Biblical date for this event is EXACTLY the same.

    The Romans created the histories of the decedents of Noah in Europe, ie. Ianus or Ogyges Sega since Noe, or Noah is a Semitic corruption of Ianus which when stripped of its vowels which just becomes "N", and the Maccabees then copied them. Ogyges is probably a corruption of Ianus as well when read as Janus.

    The Roman names are more likely to be accurate since according to Herodotus the names the Greeks used came from the records of the Egyptians.

    The Babylonian account of Noah’s flood was copied from the Greek and Norse accounts which are the oldest and closest accounts to be place the flood event occurred, and was written in about 1600 BC, long after Gilgamesh. Xisuthrus lived in 1644 BC based on pseudo-Berosus and the story for the great flood on the 11th tablet of the Gilgamesh sage was written in 1600 BC after the Thera Eruption in 1628 BC which was also the cause of the
    Ogygian deluge, Noah's flood, the flood of Manu Vaivasvata and Ragnorok all of which are dated to exactly the same time by the Bible and Indo-European historical texts.

    The ark, since the story was copied from the Greeks, ended up on mount Parnassus in Greece. The Thera Eruption Mega Tsunami is the only thing that could have transported a ship on its crest and dumped it on high ground
    inland.

    The ark started out in Phthiotis and went south. Oeta is the only other mountain in line. It probable ended up between Phocis and Boeotia closer to Parnassus than to Cithaeron.

    The bible says "all the fountains of the deep were broken up." Ragnorok also indicates that a Mega Tsunami occurred and engulfed the whole of Greece, wiping out nearly every person that lived there.

    Not everyone was killed and the survivors recorded what happened. According to the Greek accounts the people on the high ground also survived and recorded what happened. Even the Bible says Noah and his family survived the flood and all the kings of Europe were descended from them since Noah was in fact Iannus or Ogygus Saga.

    The entire line of decent from Noah was ripped off from the Peopling of Europe by Alexander Polyhistor, obtained from the Romans since Noah was the king Janus, as stated by Robert Lynche in The Travels of Noah into Europe (copied from Annias, copied from the genealogies of Plyhistor).

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    Sadly the peopling of Europe by the Greeks is being presented as Jewish and all Royal lines of Europe are being presented as descended from the Jews.

    While Minoan and Mycenaean artefacts have been found all over Europe, and have shown to have developed into Classical Greek artefacts, for example articulated Mycenaean dolls manufactured in 1600 BC look exactly the same as articulated Classical Greek dolls of 440 BC, NOTHING has been found linking any alleged ’Jewish’ culture to any other.

    Prometheus was supposed to have been nailed to the Scythian rocks. Two locations are normally given, one is in Scythia and the other is at the Pillars of Hercules opposite Spain. Prometheus (king of Hellas), Brament (king of the Scythes), Bath (king of the Illyrians) and Betus (king of Spain) are all the same person. They, or rather he was ruler of a Minoan-Mycenean’s kingdom that extended from northern Greece and the Balkans to Spain and Great Britain and Ireland.

    Bronze Age Greece was even greater than Classical Greece, it was never surpassed until Alexander the Great.
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    So the Sumerians copied the flood story from the Greeks?

    Those Sumerians were masters of forgery, shame on them.
    Let me guess, you seem to have a secret ancient library under you house basement where you access all these historical facts, very impressive.

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    Ogyges/Deukalion also ruled over the Hittites.

    All the Tydhaliya kings of the Hittites were of Greek origin. Deukalion was the same entity as the Hittite king Tudhaliya I who ruled in about 1600 BC and Deukalion II was probably the same entity as Tudhaliya II who ruled over the Hittites in about 1450 BC, since the etymology of Deukalion is Deukos Halieys or New Wine Sailor. And just like Deukaion, Noah is also credited with the invention of wine.

    This fits in with the historical accounts that say Noah and his sons came to Italy from the region of Armenia. ca He was also known to the Scyths as Ogyges Saga (which means Mighty Patriarch, sovereign Priest, and mighty Sacrificer) and also ruled over Athens in 1644 BC.

    The name Aegeaus who ruled over Athens from 1282 BC is probably a corruption of Ogyges or vica versa, as is Achaeaus, since in Linear B, G and K and Xi are all interchangeable being represented by the same symbol. The Scythian translation would indicate that the all of these names came from the same root as Agios, meaning Sacred. The name Oceanus probably shares the same root too. Janus I is likely short for Oceanus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    So the Sumerians copied the flood story from the Greeks?

    Those Sumerians were masters of forgery, shame on them.
    Let me guess, you seem to have a secret ancient library under you house basement where you access all these historical facts, very impressive.
    Like I said the 11th tablet of the Gilgamesh saga is a later addition. The Chinese accounts can also be shown to follow the Greek accounts of the Flood as do the Hindu accounts.

    The account of Ragnorok which is identified by Norse historians as Greece, Noah's flood, the flood of Xisuthrus as referred to by Berosus and the flood in the time of Manu Vaivasvata who all lived at the same time.

    The Thera Eruption and the Mega Tsunami which followed completely engulfed Greece. Norse historians refer to a Middle Earth on the other side of the Bifrost bridge or the Bospherus bridge which linked it to Asgard which was Troy.

    Jerome and Eusebius date the Ogygian Deluge caused by the Thera Eruption Mega Tsunami to 1627.5 BC exactly (cutting out Jerome's non-existent interregnums). The Bible dates Noah's flood to about 1631 BC (following Jasher on Tharrah) +/-15 years. Lynche places it at roughly the same time as states that Noe was Ogygus Saga and Iannus the king of Italy. Hindu historians also place the deluge which occurred at the time of Manu Vaivasvata at the same time following the chronology of P. E. Pargiter, after whom Sudyumna reigns. Berosus also places Xisuthrus king of the Arameans (who he consudes with Syrians when infact they are Medo-Armenians) at this time in whose reigned the great flood occurred. Thus Norse, Greek, Biblical, Hindu and Medo-Armenian accounts all agree with each other on this fact.

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    At the same time Ogygus ruled over mainland Greece, Italy, Skythia, Phoroneus ruled over the Peloponnese.

    Epaphus/Dionysus/Zagreus ruled over Egypt until he was murdered by the Titans/Curetes.

    All hell break loose.

    Epaphus and Zagreus was the same person: Dionysus.

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    In Egyptian mythology Apep is depicted as a huge winding serpent
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep

    the same form that Zeus took to beget Zagreus. Herodotus in book 2 of his histories states that Epaphus was the Greek form of Apis which is obviously, based on the corruptions of the name in Manetho, the same as Apep or Apepi.

    Not only that but the names Seneferankhre and Sakir-Har both would have sounded like Zagreus to a Greek listener hearing them read by an Egyptian priest, Se-neferAn-KHRE-US and SAKiRhaR-US which in Phoenician would have been Zacharias.

    Hence Zagreus was Epaphus who was Seneferankhre Apepi or Sakir-Har!

    The murder of Tudhaliya III by a group of officers sounds like the murder of Dionysus by the Titans.

    Deukalion II is Tudhalya II but Tudhalya III splits into 2 different kings Tudhalya IIIa and Tudhalya IIIb. The Tudhalya IIIa is Dionsyus murdered by the Titans and Thudhalya IIIb is Dionysus reborn. And that’s the source of the Dionysus twice born myth.

    Tudhalya IIIb is Dionysus the son of Semele born in Lydia who lived 200 years after Epaphus/Dionysus-Zagreus.

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    maybe because Greeks are Jews themselves?


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    Read also ZEUS, THE HYKSOS & THE ARYAN INVASION (don’t need to download, just scroll down)

    https://www.academia.edu/45662555/ZE...ARYAN_INVASION

    According to Greek and Latin accounts and according to Pausannius Zeus/Osiris was born in Crete and had his body buried in Crete after his death and was worshiped as Zeus.

    All of the gods and heroes originated as real persons. Their descendents were still living and ruling places such as Sparta, Athens, Corinth and Macedonia in classical and Hellenistic times and their royal histories and genealogies and burials grounds proved it.

    Dionysus' grave was shown in Delphi. Zeus's grave was shown in Crete.

    The Theban royal family from which Dionysus was descended from survived to the time that Herodotus was writing and beyond and Herodotus was able to verify their claims when he refers to the killers of Hippias.

    Orestes bones were also known to have existed and were stolen from Tegea by the Spartans and taken to Sparta in about 600 BC. The bones of Theseus were also returned to Athens from Scyros by general Cimon in 476 BC.

    The facts that stand before you show that no one ever disputed the ancestry of the kings of any of the Greek city states because there was an entire body of public records available which proved their ancestry to the same degree as that of the British royal family today.

    The same degree of proof as that pertaining to the ancestry of the British royals also applied to the Macedonian royal family who had to prove their line of decent from Herakles.

    The temples were set up by the gods and heroes themselves to house their own or their ancestors remains and they made their own relatives, offspring and descendents priests over them since Minoan and Mycenaean times and had complete written genealogies of priests and kings as well volumes of scrolls and other records containing their acts and legislation.

    Kekrops/Cecrops was a mortal king of Athens who ruled between and was preceded by Actaeus and followed by Cranaus, Amphictyon, Erichthonius, Pandion, Erechtheus, Cecrops II, Pandion II, Aegeus, Theseus Menesthus, Demophon, Oxyntes, Aphidas and Thymotes after which the kingship switch to the kings of Pylos starting with Melanthus whose descendents were still around ruling Athens in classical times including Peisistratus, Alcmaeon, Megacles and Clisthenes.

    Over 200 Greeks city states had rulers and citizens who claimed descent from the gods and heroes and could prove it along with historical records, burial sites and religious rites which all agreed with those of every other city state as to who lived at which time, who was descended from whom and their common deeds including battles which each city state took part in with other city states some of which where on opposites sides of the Aegean. I am not talking about a set of texts that consist of just Homer and Hesiod but over 100,000 separate historical texts less than 5% of which survive today, and this is just for Greece. If we include Rome and Europe then multiply that by 10, and there is not one single contradiction among and of them and we know that since the 5% of texts that survive today contain their epitomies and all show a single common source, the actual historical events themselves.
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    There is archaeological evidence for the flood. It was cause by a Mega Tsunami which hit Greece and travelled all the way to
    Cyprus and Egypt after the Thera Eruption in 1628 BC. It was the greatest volcanic eruption in the past 10,000 years.

    How The Eruption of Thera Changed the World:
    https://www.livescience.com/4846-eru...ged-world.html

    The only world wide catastrophe that occurred in 1628 BC was the Thera Eruptions and the Nuclear Winter it caused which lasted 18 years. There has been no other such catastrophe in the past 10,000 years.

    The Gilgamesh flood story was not part of the original epic but was written by the Babylonians in about 1600 BC after the Ogygian deluge and appended to Gilgamesh as an 11th tablet.

    The correct name of Noah is Ianus which is the name of several kings of Italy starting with Ianus I who preceded Saturn (Satar of Crete) in 1700 BC, followed by Ianus II in 1644 BC who was Ogyges/Noah and then succeeded by Ianus III in 1574 BC who is also Ion or Javan the son of Iapetus or Japheth. The name clearly doesn't come from Mesopotamia.

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