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    Dionysus or Di-Wo-Ni-So-Jo in Lineair B inscriptions also ruled the Hittites as king Tudhaiya III. Deukalion who share the same wine cult as Dionysus was king Tudhaiya II. The ancestor cult of both of these kings is known to archaeologists and Tudhaiya III's temple has even been found.

    The cult was brought to Greece and Babylon and even India by the King Tudhaliya III.

    Alexander the Great was God because he was Pharaoh of Egypt (Shishak V, Sekander) and a direct descendent of Zeus (Saasitepis, Sheshi) who was also Pharaoh of Egypt in 1674 BC, since the God of the bible was the deification of the Pharaohs of Egypt as shown by Jeremiah.

    Alexander the Great conqured India and thus emulated Dionysus (Tudhaliya III, Thurgal, Tidal, Dagon, Tauro Kranos 1400 BC) but as ruler of Egypt he surpassed even him.

    The interesting thing is that Zeus is called Sheshi by the Egyptians and Saasi-- by the Minoans which sounds very much like Sea. But the word Sea derives from the last part of Thalassa which was originally supposed to be Thalatta. The last part of Thalatta would have to go though the stage "tha" to become "ssa" and tha(s) could be interpreted as Theos or Deus.

    Since Amenhotep II reigned at the time of the Deukalion flood which dates to between 1460 and 1400 BC and is linked to the Hittite king list since a Thurgal/Tudhalia ruled Phrygia and was known as Teucer to the Greeks that means that Dionysus was responsible for putting Amenhotep III on the throne in 1386 which was his first major victory and is what brought him to Godhood.

    The first temple built in Greece to Dionysus was built by Melampus in the reign of Perseus in order to placate this God in about 1333 BC.

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    Noah lived before humankind was separated into languages-nations by God during the Babylonian tower construction. He didn’t belong to any nation. Israelites appeared even later than this separation happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    He was the Greek king Ogygus who ruled over all of Greece from Athens to the Bospherous, Balkans and all of Asia-Minor and Palestine down to Egypt and over Scythia and and Italy too.

    He ruled Greece, except Peloponnesus which was ruled by Phoroneus.

    Since Noah is Ogygus this places Noah's Flood at this time. The bible also gives the same date more or less for Noah. which caused a massive tidal wave and the Biblical date for this event is EXACTLY the same.

    The Romans created the histories of the decedents of Noah in Europe, ie. Ianus or Ogyges Sega since Noe, or Noah is a Semitic corruption of Ianus which when stripped of its vowels which just becomes "N", and the Maccabees then copied them. Ogyges is probably a corruption of Ianus as well when read as Janus.

    The Roman names are more likely to be accurate since according to Herodotus the names the Greeks used came from the records of the Egyptians.

    The Babylonian account of Noah’s flood was copied from the Greek and Norse accounts which are the oldest and closest accounts to be place the flood event occurred, and was written in about 1600 BC, long after Gilgamesh. Xisuthrus lived in 1644 BC based on pseudo-Berosus and the story for the great flood on the 11th tablet of the Gilgamesh sage was written in 1600 BC after the Thera Eruption in 1628 BC which was also the cause of the
    Ogygian deluge, Noah's flood, the flood of Manu Vaivasvata and Ragnorok all of which are dated to exactly the same time by the Bible and Indo-European historical texts.

    The ark, since the story was copied from the Greeks, ended up on mount Parnassus in Greece. The Thera Eruption Mega Tsunami is the only thing that could have transported a ship on its crest and dumped it on high ground
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    The ark started out in Phthiotis and went south. Oeta is the only other mountain in line. It probable ended up between Phocis and Boeotia closer to Parnassus than to Cithaeron.

    The bible says "all the fountains of the deep were broken up." Ragnorok also indicates that a Mega Tsunami occurred and engulfed the whole of Greece, wiping out nearly every person that lived there.

    Not everyone was killed and the survivors recorded what happened. According to the Greek accounts the people on the high ground also survived and recorded what happened. Even the Bible says Noah and his family survived the flood and all the kings of Europe were descended from them since Noah was in fact Iannus or Ogygus Saga.

    The entire line of decent from Noah was ripped off from the Peopling of Europe by Alexander Polyhistor, obtained from the Romans since Noah was the king Janus, as stated by Robert Lynche in The Travels of Noah into Europe (copied from Annias, copied from the genealogies of Plyhistor).
    Are you insane? Hebrew Language and Written Torah (Hebrew Language) , as well as Oral Torah, have been preserved and passed down Father to son, Master (רב Rav) to Disciple (תלמיד talmid) for thousands of years. We are a literate culture and people, so your extra-Toraitic references have zero resonance in Hebrew unbroken tradition. We don’t mind, we are not like that,but the adoption of our holy books by Christians is what today is called “cultural appropriation.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Targum View Post
    Are you insane? Hebrew Language and Written Torah (Hebrew Language) , as well as Oral Torah, have been preserved and passed down Father to son, Master (רב Rav) to Disciple (תלמיד talmid) for thousands of years. We are a literate culture and people, so your extra-Toraitic references have zero resonance in Hebrew unbroken tradition. We don’t mind, we are not like that,but the adoption of our holy books by Christians is what today is called “cultural appropriation.”
    This guy is barely Christian, mixing everything possible in one. But your fault is that you denied Messiah and own scriptures, Christianity, New Testament is a logical continuation while Talmudic Jews lost their connection with God. Lots of your people will repent and turn to Christ when Elijah will come once again with a sermon in the last days.

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    All nonsense, Noah was a Black Sea PIE sailor, a rarity, so he emphasized that to everyone who kept mistaking him for a farmer or plower by calling himself Noagrosos "no farm-fielder", which evolved to Noagro, Noag, Noak, and finally Noah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    Noah lived before humankind was separated into languages-nations by God during the Babylonian tower construction. He didn’t belong to any nation. Israelites appeared even later than this separation happened.
    Noe is a direct cognate with the Greek name Ion (a contraction of Deukaliones) and was the king Ianus II of Italy who lived at the time of the Ogygian Deluges which dates precisely to the time of the Mega Tsunami caused by the Thera Eruption of 1628 BC.

    The story of Deukalion throwing stones is explained by ancient historians deriving from the fact that the people fled to the mountains to escape the flood and then came back down again from the rocks, hence the people were born from the rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXD60 View Post
    All nonsense, Noah was a Black Sea PIE sailor, a rarity, so he emphasized that to everyone who kept mistaking him for a farmer or plower by calling himself Noagrosos "no farm-fielder", which evolved to Noagro, Noag, Noak, and finally Noah.
    Deucalion's name comes from δεῦκος, deukos, a variant of γλεῦκος, gleucos, i.e. "sweet new wine, must, sweetness"[3][4] and from ἁλιεύς, haliéus, i.e. "sailor, seaman, fisher".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSXD60 View Post
    All nonsense, Noah was a Black Sea PIE sailor, a rarity, so he emphasized that to everyone who kept mistaking him for a farmer or plower by calling himself Noagrosos "no farm-fielder", which evolved to Noagro, Noag, Noak, and finally Noah.
    It gets better. In Porphyry's translation of Sanchuniathon Jehovah is Pontus which makes him ruler over the Black Sea so it places Poseidon in Troy, which means he's also Odin.

    Jehovah was a Hyksos king. Jehovah since it is the same a Yaw or Ieuo or Yam (Sea) must be a derivative of Gialo (Yialo) meaning Sea.

    And like I write above

    The interesting thing is that Zeus is called Sheshi by the Egyptians and Saasi-- by the Minoans which sounds very much like Sea. But the word Sea derives from the last part of Thalassa which was originally supposed to be Thalatta. The last part of Thalatta would have to go though the stage "tha" to become "ssa" and tha(s) could be interpreted as Theos or Deus.

    The Viking Ragnarok also takes place at the same time because Troy was Asgard according to Snori.

    Aegialeus also derives from Yialos as is Yalta. Inarchus was the father of Aegialeus, and Oceanus( Janus I) was the father of Inarchus.

    Poseidon, Jehovah and probably Odin were all the same.

    The word Achaean also derives from Oceanus and comes from the same root as Aegialean and Yaw, Yam and Yunni.

    Ekwesh = [Eyakiwash] = [Ayahiwash] = Ayahaewah (=YHWH) = Akhaiwoi =Ahhiyawa = Aegialea = Achaean-ous = Ochean-ous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Targum View Post
    Are you insane? Hebrew Language and Written Torah (Hebrew Language) , as well as Oral Torah, have been preserved and passed down Father to son, Master (רב Rav) to Disciple (תלמיד talmid) for thousands of years. We are a literate culture and people, so your extra-Toraitic references have zero resonance in Hebrew unbroken tradition. We don’t mind, we are not like that,but the adoption of our holy books by Christians is what today is called “cultural appropriation.”
    Old Hebrew is really Eastern Phoenician and is closer to Archaic Greek than it is to Jewish Square Script. Hebrew script is descended from Aramaic script.

    The Jewish religion is a form of Pharao worship! Even the Psalms The Psalms were appropriated from prayers to the Egyptian gods of which the oldest versions are found in the tombs of the Pharaohs. These were common texts accessible to anyone living in Egypt which developed into different forms over time.

    The bible plagiarised all of its history from the Greeks and the Mittani and everyone else that held power in Palestine. The Bibles chronology was plagiarised from the Library of Alexandria and linked to that of Apollonius which is the basis of all Greek chronology. The date of the Biblical exodus is the same year as that of the Trojan War and the expulsion of the sea peoples. The date of Noah's Flood is the same as that of the Thera Eruption and the reign of Apis.

    The Old Testament was concocted by the Maccabees in 167 BC and based on the Septuagint which was the consolidated history of Syria-Palestine based on Ancient Egyptian texts and other historical documents fro the region which was commissioned by Antiochus Theos and placed in the Library of Alexander in Greek translation in 262 BC and synchronised to the chronology of Apollonius. There were no story tellers involved in its creation at all.

    The only thing you are right about is that the Maccabees were intent on creating a false tribal identity for the Jews so they claimed decent from them. The only mistake they made was that the Mittani whose history was appropriated to create the story of Abraham still existed in Herodotus time so it was pretty easy for the Greeks to debunk the OT.

    Even the Nephalim or Giants are references to the battle between the Gods and the Giants which according to the traditional chronology occurred in 1628 BC at the time of Apis the son of Phoroneus.
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    Diogenis Laertius had a point when he wrote:

    ["Λανθάνουσι δ' αύτούς τά τών Έλλήνων κατορθώματα, άφ΄ ών μή ότι γε φιλοσοφία, άλλά καί γένος άνθρώπων ήρξε, βαρβάροις προσάπτοντες."
    Διογένης Λαέρτιος. Φιλοσόφων Βίων καί Δογμάτων Συναγωγή. "Προοϊμιον." Ι: ΙΙΙ.

    "These authors forget that the achievements which they attribute to the barbarians belong to the Greeks, with whom not merely philosophy but the human race itself began."

    Diogenes Laertius. Lives of Eminent Philosophers. "Prooëmion." I: III.]

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