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    Quote Originally Posted by Brįs Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Although I'm not a believer, I act like a true believer by not believing in demons. You and Victor want to convince me that they exist, that is, you want me to give them importance and meaning, empowering them basically by believing in their existence ("they exist", "watch out they're going to get you", etc); an importance I don't attribute to them because I don't think they are real. So don't worry, just like a Christian who fears nothing, neither demons nor devils because he doesn't acknowledge them, I'm at ease too.
    In sense of Orthodox, Catholic and most of Protestant teachings, the ones which didn't lean too far from Christianity, denying demons and their influence on a human is totally wrong. Since the fall of Adam and Eve it cannot be avoided. You've invented your own Christianity, seems like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    In sense of Orthodox, Catholic and most of Protestant teachings, the ones which didn't lean too far from Christianity, denying demons and their influence on a human is totally wrong. Since the fall of Adam and Eve it cannot be avoided. You've invented your own Christianity, seems like.
    Do you know that Turks wanted to destroy Catholic church and replace them with Orthodox church. I don’t know why, but I wanted to tell this. Maybe Turks and Russians are historic and currently geopolitical enemies but I think if we would drink beer together, we would like each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mejgusu View Post
    Do you know that Turks wanted to destroy Catholic church and replace them with Orthodox church. I don’t know why, but I wanted to tell this. Maybe Turks and Russians are historic and currently geopolitical enemies but I think if we would drink beer together, we would like each other.
    I know that Ataturk had some plans in spreading Orthodoxy between Turks as more suitable "Oriental Christianity", it's a pity that it was already USSR, not Russian Empire as a Northern neighbor, who was barely interested in it. Who knows, maybe someday it will happen, our life is just a short moment in history of humankind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brįs Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Although I'm not a believer, I act like a true believer by not believing in demons. You and Victor want to convince me that they exist, that is, you want me to give them importance and meaning, empowering them basically by believing in their existence ("they exist", "watch out they're going to get you", etc); an importance I don't attribute to them because I don't think they are real. So don't worry, just like a Christian who fears nothing, neither demons nor devils because he doesn't acknowledge them, I'm at ease too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mejgusu View Post
    Do you know that Turks wanted to destroy Catholic church and replace them with Orthodox church. I don’t know why, but I wanted to tell this. Maybe Turks and Russians are historic and currently geopolitical enemies but I think if we would drink beer together, we would like each other.
    I consider the Turks to be one of the most worthy peoples. I don't like geeks- those who have abandoned their ancestors. I really hope that you will become a Muslim (or you will be an atheist and respect the faith of your relatives) and a Turk. You're a very smart guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mejgusu View Post
    Do you know that Turks wanted to destroy Catholic church and replace them with Orthodox church. I don’t know why, but I wanted to tell this. Maybe Turks and Russians are historic and currently geopolitical enemies but I think if we would drink beer together, we would like each other.
    I don't see anyone, I mean exact people I meet in everyday life as "enemies". No matter, Ukrainians or anyone else. Some tribes may be annoying en masse, but there are good EXACT people everywhere. I'm very critical towards Russians, too, but that's our interior business, I may dislike numerous things here, but I don't enjoy discussing my own people with strangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You only believe things exist that you can see with your own eyes?
    No, of course not. If you tell me that yesterday you commuted by train to your workplace, I will believe you, as that is a believable statement, with or without eye witnessing proof on my part. Now if you tell me that you went to work flying on a unicorn, yes, I'll ask for objective evidence that can be scrutinized. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Demons fall into the category of extraordinary claims for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    My father always say to me that although Russians are different to us, they are similar at the same time. They care about their children and family, work hard, are proud of their heritage.

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    Good attitude, unfortunately we Turks don’t grow up with peaceful opinions about other people. Everyone is our enemy, besides of Turks of course. Me and you, we both are descendants of Adam and Eve, why should I hate my own people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    In sense of Orthodox, Catholic and most of Protestant teachings, the ones which didn't lean too far from Christianity, denying demons and their influence on a human is totally wrong. Since the fall of Adam and Eve it cannot be avoided. You've invented your own Christianity, seems like.
    All my life I've been surrounded by religious people, eighteen years of catechesis, an acolyte at mass, my whole family or even my wife is very religious. I don't remember ever in all these years seeing any of them wasting time talking about demons or threatening others that they're going to hell for this or that. I don't know if they've invented a new form of Christianity or not but you're a nobody to say what is true Christianity or not anyway. My honest impression is that you don't act like an Orthodox and I doubt an Orthodox would behave in this fashion. Your rhetoric seems to be more typical of those tele-evangelical pastors from the USA, shouting about demons, devils and exorcisms, that's what you remind me of, a whole aura of snake oil and purposeless talk.
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