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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    Is it as simplistic as an invasion? What were the roots of the Crimean area in relation to the invasion?
    They were part of Ukraine and had been integrated in 1954 after it had been occupied by the Russian Empire in 1783. Which had, at the time, a Tatar and Turkish population (1783), the Russians were only shipped in much later. So by international law, they are part of Ukraine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    They work when applying them to weak countries like those you mention, but they don't apply to great powers. The US keep on breaking the international laws with no consequences. Russia, for being also a great power is no different from US on that respect, with the great difference that they "break the international laws" in response to the constant menaces from US/NATO against them, when using Russians' neighbors (Ukraine, Georgia, etc.,) as tools against them.

    You pretend that US and its allies constantly break the international laws and nobody cares "because they are the good guys who are keeping the world order" but pretend that Russians (being another big power) cannot do the same, and more when they do it to defend their national security from US and NATO.

    Your double standards are just amazing!
    Again: I showed you that they followed UN resolutions for tbe most part. Unlike Russia I might at, or unlike Venezuela that is currently wantjng to take over ita neighbours lands. The rest of what you say is the typical conspiritard hogwash.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    They were part of Ukraine and had been integrated in 1954 after it had been occupied by the Russian Empire in 1783. Which had, at the time, a Tatar and Turkish population (1783), the Russians were only shipped in much later.
    Thanks, Google. Am I right? No, I'm talking about the Color Revolution (orange, your country's fave) and the persecution of ethnic Russians. Our Russian and Ukrainian members (do we have any?) could do this debate more justice than we could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    The only part of the above I care about is you admitting those UN resolutions mean nothing to Israel because what matters to Israel is only what the US gov does. So as I said, those resolutions mean nothing. It only matters what the US gov decides to do.
    Until quite recently, the US has indeed shielded Israel from the outcomes of its actions, yes. Much of that support comes from the Republican Party with their most recent leader being a certain Donald Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    Thanks, Google. Am I right? No, I'm talking about the Color Revolution (orange, your country's fave) and the persecution of ethnic Russians. Our Russian and Ukrainian members (do we have any?) could do this debate more justice than we could.
    The persecution of ethnic Russians is another spin coming from Russian propaganda. Those "poor Germans in the Sudetenland", those "poor Germans in Danzig". And, actually. I had to dig in my memory there. It's funny how always the same claims are made before an invasion. And in that respect Herr Putler is certainly no different from Herr Hitler.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    The persecution of ethnic Russians is another spin coming from Russian propaganda. Those "poor Germans in the Sudetenland", those "poor Germans in Danzig".
    Sure it is. By the way, where's your Ukrainian "next new thing" flag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglo-Celtic View Post
    Sure it is. By the way, where's your Ukrainian "next new thing" flag?
    We can be sure about one thing when it comes to such regimes: they never stop at the first victim. And if their claims were justified ? How come they never went to the UN? Or to the OSCE? One would expect that, right, if they had a solid case ?

    Because they don't have one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Again: I showed you that they followed UN resolutions for tbe most part. Unlike Russia I might at, or unlike Venezuela that is currently wantjng to take over ita neighbours lands. The rest of what you say is the typical conspiritard hogwash.
    UN resolutions that only serve the interests of US, and being cowardly applied to weak countries.

    Russia don't need any fucking resolutions when it comes to defend their national security from US and NATO and their neocons, with the criminal globalist elites cowardly moving the strings in the background, since they just want to fuck Russia at all costs.

    It's really hard to make you understand any of that. Keep living in your bubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    We can be sure about one thing when it comes to such regimes: they never stop at the first victim. And if their claims were justified ? How come they never went to the UN? Or to the OSCE? One would expect that, right, if they had a solid case ?

    Because they don't have one.
    That's a perfect description of US, its NATO vassals, the neocons, and the criminal elites running the show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Old Comrade View Post
    Until quite recently, the US has indeed shielded Israel from the outcomes of its actions, yes. Much of that support comes from the Republican Party with their most recent leader being a certain Donald Trump.
    It's both parties. Just because Biden has tried a few things to nudge Bibi in a different direction doesn't mean Israel is not shielded by both parties.

    I'm not going to explain all this to you. Anyone stupid enough to think people would fight in a war that they know is bullshit and then 'march on the gov' afterward because it was a bullshit war to punish their politicians is just too stupid to be taken seriously.

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