Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

[gixajo]

This forum is also a form of social media channel, as all of them to a greater or lesser extent are monitored, and eventually something from here could be used as an idea or tool to use in that "information war .

Of course the importance of this forum is less than other channels, media and forums, and many would even find it ridiculous to raise this, but that's how it is.

I don't know to what extent any member could be working for an intelligence service (in minor roles, of course), but it wouldn't be unreasonable to think so, even less so right now, but the fact that it is monitored is very likely.

[Loki]

Muslim ‘cockroaches’

In a 2007 pro-gun rights video, Navalny presents himself as a “certified nationalist” who wants to exterminate “flies and cockroaches” – while bearded Muslim men appear in cutaways.

He whips out a gun and shoots an actor wearing a keffiyeh who tried to “attack” him.

The 42-second video was released by the Russian National Liberation Movement, a nationalist group Navalny had just co-founded with Zakhar Prilepin, a renowned novelist who later fought for pro-Russian separatists in southeastern Ukraine and joined a pro-Kremlin socialist party earlier this year.

Shortly before releasing the video, Navalny was kicked out of Yabloko, Russia’s oldest liberal democratic party, for his “nationalist views” and participation in the Russian March, an annual rally of thousands of far-right nationalists, monarchists and white supremacists.

A veteran human rights advocate recalled falling out with Navalny over his views at the time.

“When he told me that the future in Russia belongs only to the nationalist Russian political process, and I said, ‘Okay, lad, we are not talking any more’,” Lev Ponomaryov, who heads the Moscow-based For Human Rights group and is blacklisted by the Kremlin as a “foreign agent”.

The participants of the Russian Marches rallied against the influx of labour migrants from ex-Soviet Central Asia and Russia’s mostly-Muslim Northern Caucasus region.

Some protesters sported closely cropped hair and raised their hands in a Nazi salute.

Navalny attended the Russian March three times and, in 2011, said that each one was “a significant political event, and there is nothing dangerous about it”.

It is quite possible that Navalny was never a true nationalist, but an agent provocateur, working for the CIA to try and discredit any Russian organisations and the country in general. That could explain him changing views so quickly and drastically, whenever required.

[Loki]

This forum is also a form of social media channel, as all of them to a greater or lesser extent are monitored, and eventually something from here could be used as an idea or tool to use in that "information war .

Of course the importance of this forum is less than other channels, media and forums, and many would even find it ridiculous to raise this, but that's how it is.

I don't know to what extent any member could be working for an intelligence service (in minor roles, of course), but it wouldn't be unreasonable to think so, even less so right now, but the fact that it is monitored is very likely.

If only these agencies would admit to the importance of this forum, and start paying me a salary for it.

[Loki]

[Victor]

Ha ha I wonder why Vinnitsa to Romania? Plus I doubt Russia needs all these lands of central Ukraine. Ukraine there looks like state around Chernobyl nuclear plant lol

[Cybele]

Yeah, the West try to use Navalny to benefit their interests, that Putin drowns and kills any possible opposition has nothing to do with Navalny collaborating with West..

I don’t approve of killing the opposition. I also don’t approve of West (or anyone else) meddling in the internal affairs of other foreign states. Do you?
In some of the videos you posted, made by the Western media, Navalny was presented as real dissident against Putin. But, apparently he was not. One cannot criticize Putin for not being democratic, but approve of a person who serves foreign interests. It would be democratic, for the people to make their own real choice.
It made sense why the West tried to make a martyr out of Navalny.

And Wikileaks, does not serve the interests of Russia, it only serves the truth.

So, the fact that USA was meddling in Russia through various people and NGOs, trying to bring a government change that served their interests (their idea of “democracy”), should be ignored. Even though, the information that they were involved in some color revolutions, in neighboring countries (like Ukraine), was confirmed by Western media itself. And that’s because it was leaked through Wikileaks.

[dviz]

I don’t approve of killing the opposition. I also don’t approve of West (or anyone else) meddling in the internal affairs of other foreign states. Do you?

Russia invades a sovereign country, kills and maims its citizens, but otherwise can't take foreign intervention in the form of a dozen of NGO offices. Poor Russia, always mistreated by the West.

So, the fact that USA was meddling in Russia through various people and NGOs, trying to bring a government change that served their interests (their idea of “democracy”), should be ignored.

The USSR/Russia have tried since the beginning of the 20th century to meddle in the US, trying to seed discontent and social upheaval. So what now?

[Victor]

So what now?

Nothing, so Russia should accept it as some kind of justice? I mean are you serious? What are you talking about? She listed reasons why and what happens and reaction to it from perspective of any sovereign state.

[dviz]

Nothing, so Russia should accept it as justice? I mean are you serious? What are you talking about? She listed reasons why and what happens.

Accept what? And why should Ukraine accept the Russian invasion? Russia should get out of Ukraine. Period.

[Cybele]

Ha ha I wonder why Vinnitsa to Romania?

I don't understand either. There's no connection with that land. Also, it looks impractical and difficult to defend, having such border.

To be honest, in hypothetical scenario, it would have been strategically better for Romania a natural border following the Dnister river, but that would be at conflict of interests with Russia.