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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    If Putin does not finish the job quickly, it can backfire and this could be his end. Every day of prolonged conflict will cost Russia enourmously. He took a large gamble with invasion, I didn't expect that.
    But he obviously correctly estimated Ukrainian will and morale for fighting isn't remarkable.

    People are fleeing the country like rats are fleeing the sinking ship, and it's not like they are endangered by Russian military, especially not in western Ukraine. That's what modern people are like.

    But still, I would say Russian progress so far is not as great as they initially projected. We'll see what happens next.
    Based on a videos out there it doesn't seem that people are taking pictures of tanks like one Russian member said. Maybe they are fleeing because they are endangered and not the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Germans are stingy, they don't want to pay for army when Americans can do it for them, and Americans spend enormous money in Germany and help their GDP.
    That's what Germans are like. Small minded, stingy people who will rather live in humiliation but with full pockets than build their own forces.

    They deliberately chose not to invest into military and that is why their economy is so strong (because they can concentrate money into other areas). They keep Americans for cheap.

    I never understood glorification of Germany and "German values" by some slave minded easterners. They showed more than once they can't lead Europe.
    Yes, I like Germany and have such heritage too but that's the truth what your average Švabo is like.

    They will fuck in the ass to pay one Euro less. While that makes their economy excellent, such mentality will never make them great power, and that's well deserved.
    Don't take me for granted on this one. It's something I read years ago and it could be a distorted memory. Based on what I read and as I remember it at least, Germany was being kept under surveillance and Germany wasn't allowed to develop weapons and arm itself according to its own wishes. This situation changed only in recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arūnas View Post
    shit....

    - Zauważyliśmy podejrzane znaki na drogach! Znaki wykonane różnymi kolorami farby mogą stanowić wskaźniki dla wrogich wojsk kraju agresora. Jeśli zauważysz takie znaczniki, usuń je lub zgłoś takie "znaleziska"

    - poinformowało MSW Ukrainy.

    - We noticed suspicious signs on the roads! Signs made with different colors of paint can be indicators for the hostile troops of the aggressor's country. If you notice such markers, remove them or report the "finds"

    - informed the Ministry of the Interior of Ukraine.

    :
    Those marks are usually to indicate where pipes, electricity supply networks or fiber optics go, which are usually made by civil contractors, and they usually indicate that in the future the pavement of that sidewalk will be removed, and that the works will start soon.

    But who knows, maybe the Russians are imitating them to indicate to the troops where they should go.

    In cases of invasion, one of the defensive stratagems to slow down the enemy advance is to remove road signs, they could make those marks just in case that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Those marks are usually to indicate where pipes, electricity supply networks or fiber optics go, which are usually made by civil contractors, and they usually indicate that in the future the pavement of that sidewalk will be removed, and that the works will start soon.

    But who knows, maybe the Russians are imitating them to indicate to the troops where they should go.

    In cases of invasion, one of the defensive stratagems to slow down the enemy advance is to remove road signs, they could make those marks just in case that happened.
    yes, but near that sidewalk we have two quite strategic places, I did not show them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Russia has not such weapons. Maybe 2040. China and USA has tested EMP guns maybe also Russia, but are far away from implementation.
    Not true - EMP are already fitted on TOR-M2U since July 2020

    EMP weapons are an important component of most military arsenal. Anything electronic/robotic is rendered useless in modern combat.
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    Additional casualties of this invasion so far:

    -Dunai
    -Peterski
    -ixulescu

    And counting. The pro-Russians haven't had a single loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Additional casualties of this invasion so far:

    -Dunai
    -Peterski
    -ixulescu

    And counting. The pro-Russians haven't had a single loss
    Loki is sensitive when it comes to Russia/Putin/Christianity.
    Peterski was trolling as usual, so it's not surprising (I hope he will be allowed back though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Based on a videos out there it doesn't seem that people are taking pictures of tanks like one Russian member said. Maybe they are fleeing because they are endangered and not the opposite.
    Do you really think Russian military will murder and rape (or in any way abuse) random Ukrainian civilians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Don't take me for granted on this one. It's something I read years ago and it could be a distorted memory. Based on what I read and as I remember it at least, Germany was being kept under surveillance and Germany wasn't allowed to develop weapons and arm itself according to its own wishes. This situation changed only in recent years.
    Yeah, I think that's true. But that was obvious after WW2 and when Germany was divided and occupied, don't see what is stopping them now except their own unwillingness to take out hand from sparkasse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Not true - EMP are already fitted on TOR-M2U since July 2020

    EMP weapons are an important component of most military arsenal. Anything electronic/robotic is rendered useless in modern combat.
    It seems to use microwave sender, not EMP. Of course we can say that magnetic pulse and radio waves are two states of the same energy. But first drones have to be detected. Obviously Russia found that machine guns were not good enough and learnt the lesson. I am also sceptical about hoe effective this is at higher altitudes.

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