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Thread: Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    Don't you know that Russian tactics in Donbass is burning out the Ukrainian army with endless rockets with further advance after proper cleaning?
    I don't have a side in this war, but you're obviously being optimistic. Most Russians are burning with rockets is farmer's crop. The Russians shoot missiles at the Ukrainians' heads, their domination will never be accepted.


    Similar wars occurred in the past as Afghanistan, Vietnam and Iraq all with the same end....For resistance is required just rifles, portable bombs and anti-tank rockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    I don't have a side in this war, but you're obviously being optimistic. Most Russians are burning with rockets is farmer's crop. The Russians shoot missiles at the Ukrainians' heads, their domination will never be accepted.


    Similar wars occurred in the past as Afghanistan, Vietnam and Iraq all with the same end....For resistance is required just rifles, portable bombs and anti-tank rockets
    You literally miss basic information on what is Ukraine, its population, ethnic and ideological composition, warzone is mostly Donbass now, where no matter, almost non touched or half destroyed towns, population sees Russian troops as liberation army and Ukrainian troops are considered to be occupants. It's a war of barely motivated conscripts who failed to hide from army, huge % of whom is ready to surrender and does it. You cannot compare it with Vietnam, Afghanistan or something similar in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    You literally miss basic information on what is Ukraine, its population, ethnic and ideological composition, warzone is mostly Donbass now, where no matter, almost non touched or half destroyed towns, population sees Russian troops as liberation army and Ukrainian troops are considered to be occupants. It's a war of barely motivated conscripts who failed to hide from army, huge % of whom is ready to surrender and does it. You cannot compare it with Vietnam, Afghanistan or something similar in any way.

    So why russian army struggle so much to advance?

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    Professor Michael Clarke gives the presentation in this video. According to Clarke, Ukrainian forces launched an offensive in the south "about 10 days ago". According to reports, the Russian army may have "thinned out" its forces in this area, and so the aforementioned opportunity may exist; Ukrainian troops might be able to get around Russian forces in the Kherson area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    You literally miss basic information on what is Ukraine, its population, ethnic and ideological composition, warzone is mostly Donbass now, where no matter, almost non touched or half destroyed towns, population sees Russian troops as liberation army and Ukrainian troops are considered to be occupants. It's a war of barely motivated conscripts who failed to hide from army, huge % of whom is ready to surrender and does it. You cannot compare it with Vietnam, Afghanistan or something similar in any way.
    The only and main problem of Ukraine is that it is poorly armed and many times inferior to Russia in armament. There are no problems with motivation and people, but these people have no armament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    The bold was the main goal.

    You commented about weapons being sent (such as HIMARS and MLRS, which apparently will be sent) and having time to train. If it takes weeks to train professional soldiers to use new weapons efficiently, then how is this going to work with what is now basically an army of conscripted men who barely received any training to be competent soldiers? How do you 'level up' when a large swath of your troops barely know how to use a rifle or understand platoon level tactics?
    There are no problems with gunners. There are many professional gunners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelubey View Post
    The only and main problem of Ukraine is that it is poorly armed and many times inferior to Russia in armament. There are no problems with motivation and people, but these people have no armament.
    There's total lack of motivation between those recruits, it's a 4th wave of conscription already, en masse they're civilians with motivated Nazis with guns behind their backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    There's total lack of motivation between those recruits, it's a 4th wave of conscription already, en masse they're civilians with motivated Nazis with guns behind their backs.
    Many of these civilians/recruits have passed through the Donbass and have combat experience. If I'm not mistaken, hundreds of thousands of people have already fought in the Donbass in last 8 years

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    The number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is 200 thousand people, reservists - 250 thousand people, with combat experience - 407 thousand people.

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