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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    German Nazis would completly destroy Polish nation, if they had won the war. Wiped floor with Poles.

    Yet, Poles hate Russians with demonic hate.
    They don't have to like any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    This is only wishful thinking. What Russia wants is much more. They try to eat elephat piece by piece, need time and want China to help them. But China has its price. Believe me, this story will end never.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Did you know that nationalism can be very different in every country? I have no idea why do you think that various nationalism are same compared to each other. If you dont see connection between nationalism and foreign policy then this topic is not for you because you dont understand this war.
    Nationalism fuels this war on both sides, but one has to be stupid if doesn't see other explanations. Greed of power is working everywhere. It is only a nice trick to disguise it to a nationalistic stance. Bit by bit the greed erodes common sense throws peope to false activism and on the other hand to apathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Nationalism fuels this war on both sides, but one has to be stupid if doesn't see other explanations. Greed of power is working everywhere. It is only a nice trick to disguise it to a nationalistic stance. Bit by bit the greed erodes common sense throws peope to false activism and on the other hand to apathy.
    Okay, can you quote me when i said only the nationalism is the reason of this war? I just reffered to this:

    I don't see the connection between nationalism and foreign policy.
    Here, you said nationalism has nothing to do with this war. Of course its bullshit. Btw do you think its good idea to make putsch in nationalist regions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Okay, can you quote me when i said only the nationalism is the reason of this war? I just reffered to this:



    Here, you said nationalism has nothing to do with this war. Of course its bullshit. Btw do you think its good idea to make putsch in nationalist regions?
    Greed of power is the usual reason for starting wars. Slaves, oil, minerals, markets... Every nation has to be nationalistic, but it isn't a reason to start war against neighbors.

    Putsch is reasonable if it is done with the explicit purpose to establish democratic power.

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    WOW Putin really is Hitler reincarnated.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1628891508488261632

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Even if it was a written official agreement, chances are the West wouldn't hold their word anyways.

    The West has shown how much their word, even in the form of a written official agreement is worth: nothing.
    Recent relevations regarding the Minsk written official agreements tell as much.

    Merkel herself recently admitted the Minsk agreements were never going to be respected by the West.
    Never was there any intention of allowing the population in the Donbass the right of self-determination on their own future.

    The Minsk agreements were signed by the West in bad faith, only pretending to want to resolve the Donbass conflict peacefully.

    Russia is well-known to keeps its promises instead. Ukraine, in 1994 under the pressure of U.S, gave-up its nuclear-arsenal so that Russia would respect its sovereignty and borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    WOW Putin really is Hitler reincarnated.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1628891508488261632
    Tell me about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Greed of power is the usual reason for starting wars. Slaves, oil, minerals, markets... Every nation has to be nationalistic, but it isn't a reason to start war against neighbors.
    We have talked about the complex reasons of this war, i would not explain it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Putsch is reasonable if it is done with the explicit purpose to establish democratic power.
    No, you have no right to make a putsch in abroad, just because you dont like the government. This is the fourth time that Orbán was elected by 2/3 of hungarian voters, EU and foreign observers also participated in the election. His popularity is real, and i dont wanna a civil war just because the CIA does not like Orbán. Dont legitimise this.

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