Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

[Victor]

I trusted that Putin would honor his treaty alliances with Armenia; instead, he helped Azerbaijan force Armenia to sign a crippling & humiliating surrender, in 2020. I thought he'd do what he's doing now, in the Ukraine; instead, he wouldn't lift a finger, while Turkey & Azerbaijan ganged up against their neighbor. Well, I guess that helping Armenia to surrender is kind of helping. I'm very disappointed with Putin.

Russia never considered Karabakh to be a part of Armenia, neither did Armenia. Armenia was not attacked in this conflict. Collective Security Treaty Organization is not supposed to protect the territories out of its members terriotries. That's like Kazakhstan army going to LDNR now.

[Harkonnen]

Russia: Density
8.4/km2 (21.8/sq mi) (181st)

Ukraine: Density
73.8/km2 (191.1/sq mi) (115th)

Poland: Density
123/km2 (318.6/sq mi) (83rd)

The Netherlands: Density
423/km2 (1,095.6/sq mi) (16th)


but those 'Satanists' wants more and more land having 1/6 of Earth land land

What will they do when they have all the land in the world? Nothing left to do anymore, they will be spiritually lost. Time for harakiri

[Victor]

Ukraine has pretty extensive natural resources:

1st place in Europe proven uranium ore reserves

2nd place in Europe and 10th in the world titanium ore reserves

2nd place in the world in terms of manganese ore reserves (2.3 billion tonnes or 12% of world reserves)

2nd place in the world iron ore reserves (30 billion tons)

2nd place mercury ore reserves

3rd place in European (13th place in the world) shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)

4th based on the total value of natural resources

7th place in coal reserves (33.9 billion tonnes)

1st place in Europe in terms of arable land

3rd in the world in terms of black soil area
(25% of the world's black soil volume)

1st place in the export of sunflower and sunflower oil

2nd place in the world in barley production and fourth in barley exports

3rd place corn producer and 4th place corn exporter

4th place as the world's potato producer

5th place as the world's rye producer

5th place in world beekeeping (75,000 tons)

8th place in the world in wheat exports

9th place in the world in egg production

16th place in world cheese exports.

Ukraine is able to meet the food needs of an estimated 600 million people.


1st place in Europe in ammonia production

2nd place in Europe and the world's fourth largest natural gas pipeline system (142.5 billion cubic meters of gas throughput in the EU)

3rd largest and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants

The world's 3rd largest iron exporter

4th place in the world in clay exports

4th place in the world in titanium exports

8th place in the world in the export of ores and concentrates

The world's 10th largest steel producer (32.4 tonnes).

Yeh but do you really think that Poland will ever have it? I don't want any war from the beginning, but seeing Poland as someone who wanna get territorial benefits from it is just funny surrealism. Hearts of Iron gaming, not more than this.

[ixulescu]

It's realy doubtful statement and weak insult. Usually Russian trolls insult Ukrainians this way about cleaning Polish public toilets. Provincial Russians rarely go abroad in search of such job, most of them concentrate in Moscow, Petersburg and few other big cities in a search of employment, but still low key jobs are for migrants, Russians avoid some jobs usually.

Works great on him, and that's enough.

On the other hand, more and more Russian and Ukrainian women come to do menial jobs in Romania. It's sad but it's a fact.

[Russki]

What will they do when they have all the land in the world? Nothing left to do anymore, they will be spiritually lost. Time for harakiri

Finland has a 1500 km long Baltic Sea coastline and wanted even Karelian Isthmus and some irredentists claim SPB

Greedy fucks

[Sandis]

Russia: Density
8.4/km2 (21.8/sq mi) (181st)

Ukraine: Density
73.8/km2 (191.1/sq mi) (115th)

Poland: Density
123/km2 (318.6/sq mi) (83rd)

The Netherlands: Density
423/km2 (1,095.6/sq mi) (16th)


but those 'Satanists' wants more and more land having 1/6 of Earth land land

Russia also has more arable land per capita than Ukraine, yet they cry that it's not enough:

https://www.nationmaster.com/country...res-per-capita

[Victor]

Works great on him, and that's enough.

On the other hand, more and more Russian and Ukrainian women come to do menial jobs in Romania. It's sad but it's a fact.

Ukrainian and Moldavian, maybe and it's a pity. There's no tendency like this for Russians. Russia has abnormal interior migration of labor power to main cities + migration of high class specialists abroad. Lots of Ukrainians here aswell, not just LDNR ones, some Moldovans too. Mostly in service and construction workers, Ukrainian women are nannies in families + nurses in hospitals who live in smaller towns 50-100 km from Moscow where rent is cheaper and work the long shifts in Moscow hospitals, like 7-14 days in row then going back for a week home. Ukrainians may live here literally as long as they wish, all harsh migration rules for them were lifted during last few years.

[Harkonnen]

Finland has a 1500 km long Baltic Sea coastline and wanted even Karelian Isthmus and some irredentists claim SPB

Greedy fucks

Right. Our 1500 km coastline makes you seethe of rage. The injustice.

[Finnish Swede]

I'm genuinely interested about waste water system of SPB.

Continue, please.

It is top quality today (even western scales). Russians paid it partly and part of money came from Finland and Sweden. Finland's and Sweden's technology leader companies built it. It was the biggest enviromental achievement behalf of Baltic Sea for long time.
Plant started somewhere 2013. Helps also lake Ladoga.

http://www.vodokanal.spb.ru/en/

[Armenian Bishop]

Russia never considered Karabakh to be a part of Armenia, neither did Armenia. Armenia was not attacked in this conflict. Collective Security Treaty Organization is not supposed to protect the territories out of its members terriotries. That's like Kazakhstan army going to LDNR now.

My point is that Russians, in Eastern Ukraine, have the very same premise that Armenians are claiming (in their neck of the woods), that being self-determination, by the will of the people. Putin is hypocritical, because he uses the very same premises (for Ukraine) that he trashed and denounced, among his Armenian Ally. But, aside from that, Armenia's UN recognized regions were also attacked, and the signed treaty alliance demanded for a more aggressive intervention, from Russia.