Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

**Victor** · 08-17-2022, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by щрбл

What do you think attracts them so much and that he cannot provide at home?

You probably know better, tell me, for example I find my life in Russia pretty good. I have no idea what EU or USA can provide to a rich person what is not available in Russia.

**Loki** · 08-17-2022, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by щрбл

Why do you think the chief Eurasian midget continues to hide his known and unknown children in degenerate Western world?
What do you think attracts them so much and that he cannot provide at home?
Do you think they hold foreign passport and should leave the Russian world, too?

I hope the vast majority of Uzbeks are not like you.

**Loki** · 08-17-2022, 03:38 PM

Good video

**Jehan** · 08-17-2022, 08:24 PM

I saw this map the evolution of the frontline during the last month.
I guess we can at least, all agree how sad and useless this war is.

**Loki** · 08-17-2022, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Smaland

This photo of the "Antonovsky bridge in Kherson" was posted in the Kyiv Post, and it was taken from Wikipedia.

Full story at The Drive

Just shows that they never expect to win back Kherson from the Russians again, that's why they don't care about destroying civilian infrastructure. They're destroying their own country.

**Loki** · 08-17-2022, 08:44 PM

Ukrainian army, nationalists set up strongholds at kindergartens of Artyomovsk

MOSCOW, August 17. /TASS/. The units of the Ukrainian army as well as the militants of nationalist battalions have set up strongholds and ammo depots at kindergartens in Artyomovsk and Soledar, head of Russia’s National Defense Control Center Mikhail Mizintsev said on Wednesday.

"In Artyomovsk, the militants of the nationalist battalions set up a stronghold and an ammo depot at kindergarten No. 58 (Gorbatova Street) and stationed artillery weapons and mortars on the adjacent territory while civilians from the nearby buildings had not been evacuated and the nationalists are using them as human shields," said Mizintsev who also heads Russia’s Joint Coordination Headquarters for Humanitarian Response in Ukraine.

According to the military official, the Ukrainian armed formations also stationed armored equipment and multiple-launch rocket systems at a kindergarten in Soledar in order to shell populated localities. "In Soledar, at kindergarten No. 59 (Preobrazhenskaya Street), the units of the Ukrainian army set up a stronghold, barracks and ammo depots, as well as roadblocks and firing positions," he noted, emphasizing that the nationalists forbade the local residents from leaving their houses and roughly suppress any attempts to evacuate.

https://tass.com/defense/1495017

**Teutone** · 08-17-2022, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Jehan

I saw this map the evolution of the frontline during the last month.
I guess we can at least, all agree how sad and useless this war is.

Not really, as noone seriously expected a Blitzkrieg or a Iraq scenario.

The Ukraine is fortified there since 2014 with not so bad weapon systems and pretty decent number of soldiers, I think people that take their expectation of wars from Video games or other wars in the recent past that have completely different credentials are surprised over this.

A openly announced War of Attrition will not result in constant ground offensives and gains.

**luc2112** · 08-18-2022, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by Teutone

No dude, it was passed on the premise of Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and the security council approved it, you act out of the understanding that we by now know there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq but when this Resolution passed, the security council has shown to believe the Story of the USA.

" The resolution makes clear that any Iraqi failure to comply is unacceptable and that Iraq must be disarmed. And, one way or another, Iraq will be disarmed. If the Security Council fails to act decisively in the event of further Iraqi violations, this resolution does not constrain any Member State from acting to defend itself against the threat posed by Iraq or to enforce relevant United Nations resolutions and protect world peace and security."

Based on that, the Iraq invasion has happened, that's a basic historical fact, very basic.

That resolution comes from the gulf war were long-range missiles. This resolution empowers UN inspectors which was not denied by Sadam. France has a permanent seat and vetoed the resolution military action.
The allegation of alleged weapons of mass destruction and involvement with terrorist groups is from the USA+UK, there was no way to submit it to the UN, as there was no evidence. The USA itself admits that the invasion was a mistake and tarnished the image of the American army.

Originally Posted by Teutone

You dont need to remember, you should have access to search engines showing you that North Vietnam was a independent country as much as North Korea is.

The partition took place after the first Indochina war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Indochina_War

Plus an occupation is not needed to violate the territorial integrity of a country.[/QUOTE]
It was a parallel, the south had Vietcong guerrillas operating in the interior so attacks to the north are justifiable and not a violation.

Originally Posted by Teutone

Sure Guerilla with b-26 Bombers, are you really that stupid or just act that way? The weapons, the operation, the arms, the leadership were all american, I mean not even americans deny it, there are multiple interviews out there of american FBI and CIA agents that were involved in it.

Cuban ex patriates some were military, yes they were armed by the US with planes, two other freighters, but they were all Cubans, so it's not the US army invading Cuba. Don't worry about the CIA the KGB was also there reporting the place of the attack.

Originally Posted by Teutone

Voluntarily LOL

Wanna see the protests in Germany, Iraq,Korea and Japan concerning those bases? Are you aware the bases in those countries are a result of wars?

The USA is neo-colonialist force, it doesn't end with Bases established that strip the targeted nation from any future of a independent foreign policy, it keeps going with ExxonMobil and other big American companies getting contracts over the natural resources of those nations. How naive are you? You think any world power is establishing bases or get the resources of a nation to be nice?

Your view on the USA seems to be based on Disney movies, and this isnt even trash talk thats a genuine feeling I get reading your stuff.

Are you talking about the Middle East? Yes, there has always been interest in the region's oil and a lot of strategic interest in the region. Soviets (past), Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq (past), USA and Western Europe.

About Germany! It is independent, otherwise they would not have Russian gas pipelines, but liquefied gas from the USA, which is the largest producer.
About their military bases, after the cold war they no longer make sense, their rulers should ask the USA to withdraw from the country, but their politicians don't want to.

Brazil has a mutual defense agreement with the USA for the American continent, we only had temporary bases during WWWII. The military doesn't want a foreign military base here!

The possibility of the Brazilian government ceding territorial space for the installation of a US military base in the country is unnecessary and inappropriate in the opinion of three generals and three senior officers.

In 1945, under the terms of the agreement signed between Presidents Getúlio Vargas and Franklin Roosevelt, American planes and personnel left the premises. In the four years of joint operation of the base, the population of the capital, Natal, had doubled from 40,000 to 80,000.

State Department documents record an attempt to extend the collaboration pact in 1946 for a period of 50 years. The Brazilian Foreign Ministry informed Washington that the then newly created FAB had its own plans for the complex. Over time, no other treaty of the same type has been negotiated.

The Armed Forces have agreements with foreign military organizations to receive specialized training groups – for example, in jungle warfare disciplines – or for combined air combat exercises. And this is it.