Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

[Occiput in Starlight]

Prigozhin is a bit surreal to me.

[Annihilus]

[Lemminkäinen]

Prigozhin must be nuked. Or maybe Polonium for the breakfast. This is the last test for him, because being a real patriot he couldn't save himself and move to the Ukrainian side. I wonder would he be ready to fall instead of flying to Africa and begging refugee status there.

[PAGANE]

In recent hours, the drama "Prigozhin vs. Shoigu" has been playing out mostly on Telegram channels in Russia. At this point, it is too early to draw any definitive conclusions about the events that are "taking place", primarily as a result of unconfirmed information in the media. Only the treatment of gen. Surovikin to PMC "Wagner" can be accepted as authentic. Russia cannot be defeated at the front. It is the largest nuclear power in the world. The only way to defeat her is to provoke an internal coup, a betrayal. Historically, Russia has a huge legacy of betrayals at the highest state level. The subject of a "coup" in Russia has been frequently discussed in the Western and Russian media recently. It should be noted that at this point it is not clear which of the two countries is conducting PSYOP (psychological operation). The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has been cleaning up corrupt senior staff in recent months. This cannot but cause internal turmoil. To regard Prigogine as a "self-rejoicing entity" is too frivolous. PMC "Wagner" is actually made up of GRU cadres. Prigozhin himself has no military training and is only a "label". Something like Zelensky in Kyiv. Others command on the battlefield. It is an illusion to believe that the special services of the NATO member countries will not try to cause disturbances in the Russian Defense Ministry at a time when the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being defeated in the counteroffensive. The fact that the entire Western agency has been activated in the highest echelons of the Russian government, as the Russians say, "it's clear to the goat." At this point, the following conclusions can be drawn regarding the current situation in Russia and in particular in the Russian Defense Ministry:
1. Western special services are conducting large-scale preparations for a palace coup in Moscow. The main goal is the overthrow of Putin and a return to Yeltsin's Russia. A goal that has never been a secret. The VSU counteroffensive is used, which further strains ordinary Russians and makes them easier to manipulate and susceptible to any kind of informational-psychological attacks.
2. The Russians are holding an event to finally expose the foreign agency in the highest echelons of power in Russia. After that, its mass neutralization will follow. The risks are enormous, but the Kremlin's time is divided. It is noteworthy that Putin has so far not appeared publicly to comment on the events surrounding Prigozhin. Let the situation develop.
3. The Russians had information about the planned coup and prepared to use it by getting involved in the development of events to their advantage. Kind of like your own event in someone else's event. If this version of the course of events turns out to be true, it is very difficult to differentiate the two directions of development of the situation.
4. At this stage we only get different interpretations of constructed virtual reality on a media basis. Kind of like a simulacrum. Nothing definitively confirmed and proven. Hasty conclusions are a sign of low information culture and high emotionality. It is necessary to dispel the info-fog in order to speak reasonedly with evidence.
Probably, in the coming hours and days, the situation in Russia will undergo unexpected turns for the general public.....

[Annihilus]

An-24 shot down near Kantemirovka of Voronezh

[Varda]

Current situation with Wagner in Russia reminds me on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_S...utiny_(Serbia)

[gixajo]

Prigozhin must be nuked. Or maybe Polonium for the breakfast. This is the last test for him, because being a real patriot he couldn't save himself and move to the Ukrainian side. I wonder would he be ready to fall instead of flying to Africa and begging refugee status there.

Once Putin has been able to do without Wagner at the front, Prigozhin may have thought that once they have proven that he is not essential, they would go for his head. That fact could have been one of the causes of what he is doing now.

That is to say, perhaps he is pretending to escape unscathed from all the criticism and problems that he has caused the leadership of the defense ministry.

Sometimes I wonder if it's not all a lie and with all this they intend to stage a farce so that the Ukrainians stop being so prudent in their advance and make a rapid advance in depth without taking the necessary precautions.

Imagine, Wagner PMC's withdrawal from the front could be actually a covert redeployment to the areas where they were supposed to be the main advance of the Ukranian counteroffensive.

"Nobody expected the PMC Wagner in Zaporizhia!!!"

[Lemminkäinen]

Prigozhin's only hope is to hurry to Moscow. In Moscow his troops can be in safe from the air force and use their tactical ability. If he stays on the road, he is lost.

[ugochaves]

Prigozhin must be nuked. Or maybe Polonium for the breakfast. This is the last test for him, because being a real patriot he couldn't save himself and move to the Ukrainian side. I wonder would he be ready to fall instead of flying to Africa and begging refugee status there.

Do you often eat polonium for breakfast? Judging by your messages, daily with eggs...

[Annihilus]

Prigozhin's only hope is to hurry tp Moscow. In Moscow his troops can be in safe from the air force and you their tactical ability. If he stays on the road, he is lost.

I wonder if they will blow bridges to stop Wagner crossing the Oka.