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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    We can do an small experiment if you want to test how they lie to the citizens of each country and in what way, because they are lying to all of us.

    But we will need the help of some Russian members.
    I don't question whether governments lie. I question whether something like arresting thousands of people for having a particular view can be hidden from the rest of the world so easily.
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    Ukrainian forces set up firing positions in Kramatorsk residential areas — ministry

    According to Mikhail Mizintsev, the military forbids civilians from leaving their homes, using them as human shields

    MOSCOW, August 13. /TASS/. Ukrainian nationalists set up firing positions in the residential areas of Kramatorsk, residents are forbidden to leave their homes, they are used as human shields, Russian National Defense Control Center head Colonel General Mikhail Mizintsev stated on Saturday.

    "Ukrainian nationalists have set up firing positions, deployed armored vehicles, artillery pieces and MLRS in Kramatorsk in the Donetsk People's Republic, in densely populated residential areas, from where they systematically shell nearby settlements, provoking return fire from units of the Russian Armed Forces and the People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic," he said.

    According to Mizintsev, the military forbids civilians from leaving their homes, using them as human shields. Nationalists also use educational institutions in Yasnaya Polyana of the Donetsk People's Republic and Guty, Kharkov region, as strongholds, he added.

    Mizintsev stressed that such actions by the Ukrainian authorities show complete indifference to the fate of their own citizens and absolute disregard for all moral norms and principles of international humanitarian law.
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    Chechen leader says more volunteers depart to Ukraine

    Thanks to outstanding teaching staff of the Rusisan University of Special Forces, the volunteers are well-prepared for solving operational tasks promptly and skillfully, Ramzan Kadyrov said

    MOSCOW, August 14. /TASS/. A new group of volunteers, who underwent training in the Chechnya-based university of special forces, left the Russian North Caucasus Republic and is headed to Ukraine, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov wrote in his Telegram channel.

    "Another group of volunteers departed to the Donbass special operation zone today from Grozny International Airport," he said. "Thanks to outstanding teaching staff of the Rusisan University of Special Forces, the volunteers are well-prepared for solving operational tasks promptly and skillfully."

    The Russian University of Special Forces is the first and only private educational institution in the Russian Federation to provide professional training for special forces. It’s being built with funding from private investors on an area of more than 450 hectares in the city of Gudermes and is a compound of 95 buildings equipped with the latest special information technology solutions. The university covers such areas as firearms, special tactical, airborne, mountain training, as well as the training of bodyguards and military journalists.
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    hahaha, how could i miss gem! talking about degeneracy, russian state telly wins pants down
    i wonder if it was broadcast in prime time

    tbh, if this is what russkies on the forum actually watch on a daily basis, then i start understand their mindset

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    Destruction of the ukronazi fire position in the direction of Soledar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by щрбл View Post
    hahaha, how could i miss gem! talking about degeneracy, russian state telly wins pants down
    i wonder if it was broadcast in prime time

    tbh, if this is what russkies on the forum actually watch on a daily basis, then i start understand their mindset

    We already discussed it here, me and few other people don't even have TV set at home. But generally Russian official propaganda is boring, not effective and always outdated. The informational war is maintained by enthusiasts, bloggers, stringers much better than by the state. This one you pasted is for target audience made of 60+ people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    We already discussed it here, me and few other people don't even have TV set at home. But generally Russian official propaganda is boring, not effective and always outdated. The informational war is maintained by enthusiasts, bloggers, stringers much better than by the state. This one you pasted is for target audience made of 60+ people.
    You're absolutely right. I think Russia really lacks in the information war, they are way behind the West in that, unfortunately. But of course the West pretends that Russian propaganda is so dangerous and everywhere. They are lying, of course, and labels everything "Russian propaganda" that goes against their narratives or exposes the truth about their lies.
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    My relatives contacted familiar people from "occupied" Kherson. Majority of people in city are on Russian side because now they have higher wages and higher pensions, everyone there is waiting for referendum to join Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    My relatives contacted familiar people from "occupied" Kherson. Majority of people in city are on Russian side because now they have higher wages and higher pensions, everyone there is waiting for referendum to join Russia.
    Lots of people in Nikolaev are sorry that there was no Kherson scenario. Now Ukraine won't let them out from its embrace that easy.

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