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    Guys, the ghost of Kiev just shot down a Russian tie fighter


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hithaeglir View Post
    I just lost thirty minutes of my life watching Putin's speech, I can now safely confirm he is a sociopath, with a good taste in plastic surgeons though. That blepharoplasty is on point!
    I prefer to read long texts. I can't stand long videos and often put x1,25-1,5 speed on youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavicaliphate View Post
    Lol if they tried you would see another Cuban missile crises. That’s the point. And if pulled off Russia would have crazy influence on the west since they know Russian missiles can reach the capital in under 10 mins. That’s simply not enough time to react appropriately. You can only launch them all at that point. Russia does have subs that will hit the major cities. But to assure that the entire North American continent is covered you need bases.
    It's just my opinion that if he continued supplying Europe with gas (Europe was expected to double the amount of natural gas usage) he would do a favor to his country and people economically and to European countries too. This way he crippled Russian economy and Russian people all over the world, strenghtened American presence in Europe and anti-Russian sentiment. He also setbacked another European country (Ukraine) for decades as well as Europe in one way or another.

    With good reputation and relations he could stop deploying nukes in Ukraine. With nukes in Ukraine Russia can answer with nukes in Cuba if that is possible today since I don't know what is the US influence there these days. NATO is not only the US and other European NATO countries can reject nukes being deployed in Ukraine for a greater good especially if they see Russia as a reliable partner. Even if Ukraine enters NATO NATO wouldn't deploy nukes in Ukraine because it would be obvious who is an agressor, especially I repeat if Russia continued to develop good economic ties with western Europe. Why aren't there nukes in Poland? Are there? Isn't Poland in NATO? Nukes are located in western European countries to my best knowledge.

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    Former top Russian diplomat: ‘People will realize their sons are dying’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    It's just my opinion that if he continued supplying Europe with gas (Europe was expected to double the amount of natural gas usage) he would do a favor to his country and people economically and to European countries too. This way he crippled Russian economy and people all over the world, strenghtened American presence in Europe and anti-Russian sentiment. He also setbacked another European country (Ukraine) for decades as well as Europe in one way or another.

    With good reputation and relations he could stop deploying nukes in Ukraine. With nukes in Ukraine Russia can answer with nukes in Cuba if that is possible today since I don't know what is the US influence there these days. NATO is not only the US and other European NATO countries can reject nukes being deployed in Ukraine for a greater good especially if they see Russia as a relieable partner. Even if Ukraine enters NATO NATO wouldn't deploy nukes in Ukraine because it would be obvious who is an agressor, especially I repeat if Russia continued to develop good economic ties with western Europe. Why aren't there nukes in Poland? Are there? Isn't Poland in NATO? Nukes are located in western European countries to my best knowledge.
    Why do you (not only you, but actually lots of ppl) always reduce everything to one person? Russia is ruled by a relatively large group of people, Putin just represents it. Thinking that everything is just his own unexpected and rapid decisions is so naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insuperable View Post
    Indeed, especially at this point now.

    Finland's Orthodox church: There are no justifications for this war.


    Exactly. How a hell Russians can think that they could be brothers after they have first bombed another country to dust? Lots of people have died.
    It's like Swedes would first kill Norwegians and then say we are brothers, right? Or Finns killing Estonians. It just does not work like that. War is not some football game etc. which can be forgotten.

    Or do Russians really think that they kill just ''nazis'' there? They can not be that stupid. Nope, what comes to ''brotherhood'', Ukraine is lost ... no matter how the war will end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    Why do you (not only you, but actually lots of ppl) always reduce everything to one person? Russia is ruled by a relatively large group of people, Putin just represents it. Thinking that everything is just his own unexpected and rapid decisions is so naive.
    Because he is a dictator or at least very close it. It doesn't seem that most Russians are for war against Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Caeli View Post
    Why do you (not only you, but actually lots of ppl) always reduce everything to one person? Russia is ruled by a relatively large group of people, Putin just represents it. Thinking that everything is just his own unexpected and rapid decisions is so naive.
    This is an excellent point. It's the perception here in the US (and obviously the West as a whole) that Putin does what he wants when he wants. You can see that influence on our perception very well throughout the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    You could’ve baked or cooked something instead
    Yeah I should have baked a celebratory nuclear themed cake.

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    Ukraine President Zelenskyy challenges European leaders to prove they support Ukraine l ABCNL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ls-smUW-y0

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