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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaland View Post
    If this is a case of arson, I condemn the act of doing so, regardless of who did it.

    With all due respect, the original news story may have been posted by a Russian news source. Nonetheless, if it is true, then I would believe that this was done by Ukrainian militants.
    Well this church is located in Sviatohirk an area still under Ukranian control. This looks like an arson, not shelling. Plus why the hell would Russia burn down a church that has links to their own culture/ country?.. Makes no sense.
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    Exclamation Speaking of high fuel prices/shortage.....

    Ukrainian soldiers fuel their cars with sunflower oil because of fuel shortages






    how can they be expected to "beat" the Russians?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverKnight View Post
    Ukrainian soldiers fuel their cars with sunflower oil because of fuel shortages






    how can they be expected to "beat" the Russians?...
    You are a bit exaggerating always, but there are indeed multiple sources that indicate a declining moral within Ukrainian troops, even addressed by the military academy of austria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    You are a bit exaggerating always, but there are indeed multiple sources that indicate a declining moral within Ukrainian troops, even addressed by the military academy of austria.
    I'm not exaggerating, it's reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    You are a bit exaggerating always, but there are indeed multiple sources that indicate a declining moral within Ukrainian troops, even addressed by the military academy of austria.
    At this stage, what Ukrainians have done speaks for itself.. Most people said "its done, Ukraine is finished" when Russian troops surrounded Kyiv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    At this stage, what Ukrainians have done speaks for itself.. Most people said "its done, Ukraine is finished" when Russian troops surrounded Kyiv.
    Doesnt change the fact that the new phase of the russian campaign with ongoing artillery support and slow paced but coordinated attacks and encirclements, now breaks the moral of them significantly.

    The first phase of the Russian invasion was a complete failure tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    At this stage, what Ukrainians have done speaks for itself.. Most people said "its done, Ukraine is finished" when Russian troops surrounded Kyiv.
    Everyone and their mother (unless they're completely oblivious) knows the attack on Kyiv was to split Ukrainian forces. The Russians never cared about Kyiv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    The first phase of the Russian invasion was a complete failure tho.
    Yeah, they underestimated high-tech Ukrainian military hardware which they dont have and greatly failed their initial goal. I admit that it was a bright/wise decision from Russian side to retreat and choose a "classical" approach in east, relying on small but well-protected pikes of infantry and artillery support. But this also have a cure; Which would be long range artillery rocket systems like HIMARS and counter-artillery radars what is on the way to Ukraine from Usa now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    Yeah, they underestimated high-tech Ukrainian military hardware which they dont have and greatly failed their initial goal. I admit that it was a bright/wise decision from Russian side to retreat and choose a "classical" approach in east, relying on small but well-protected pikes of infantry and artillery support. But this also have a cure; Which would be long range artillery rocket systems like HIMARS and counter-artillery radars what is on the way to Ukraine from Usa now.
    Certainly can be a problem, I am not fully aware of the scale of the air superiority of the Russian Aerospace Forces, they certainly do not have it over the entire Ukraine, but it seems like they have the superiority over novo-russia, it will certainly be needed if they want to get rid of the HIMARS.

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