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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    The effects of the sanctions against Russia will begin to be felt more and more as time goes by, by the civil population.
    Dude, as an American I'm feeling the effects of sanctions on Russia. I care about my wallet. Biden certainly doesn't care. He better care or he'll be voted out. No one gives a fuck about Ukraine except the news media. The rest of us care about inflation and gas prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Dude, as an American I'm feeling the effects of sanctions on Russia. I care about my wallet. Biden certainly doesn't care. He better care or he'll be voted out. No one gives a fuck about Ukraine except the news media. The rest of us care about inflation and gas prices.
    He's obviously not going to run again bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    He's obviously not going to run again bro.
    Is he any less oblivious than in 2020? It would be an amusing acknowledgment that he wasn't 'all there' if he doesn't.

    Whether it's him, Harris, or some other democrat the people are not happy with Democrats.

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    The thing is, most eastern europeans wanted to join the Europe Union, so countries like Poland and Romania joining NATO was kind of secundary consequence of the facts. Of course the americans, the english and the french saw this with a huge smile on their faces, but I doubt they would try to force eastern european nations to join NATO and EU by force, had not eastern europeans wanted to kick out the russian influence during the post-soviet period. I think the same is true about Ukraine. Most ukranians want to see their country joining EU, not NATO (at least it was the case before the current wat I guess). They didn't vote for Zelensky because they hate the russians and Russia, but because they want to develop their country and boost their economy and life standart. Of course there's some anti-russian people, but I'm pretty sure they make up a very small minory there. The average Joe cares about the quality of his life, healthcare, security, oportunities for him and his family, etc. What does Russia offer as an ally? Would Ukraine become and developed country being a russian influenced country (economically)? We're talking about the will of the ukranian people vs Putin and his staff's plans here, that's why Russia is wrong in my opinion.

    In my view (correct if I'm wrong), NATO would never try to impose it way into Ukrania hadn't the ukranine people not vote for Zelensky and pro-west politicians, because they know they can't expand their frontiers and add more allies without the consent of the ukranian population and the local politicians. I'm not an expert on that matter, so I'm open to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by щрбл View Post
    I have nothing against paying twice for energy and transportation as long as the Eurasian midget's head sits on a pike
    The costs of transportation also raise the prices of food and other necessities.

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