Vyatka Russian Gedmatch (My mom)

**~~AndreAndre~~** · 03-13-2022, 09:25 PM

I don't trust Eurogenes calculators so I'm going to post the results of other calculators too.
My mom's known ancestry is as follows:
Mother born in Yoshkar-Ola, blue eyed brunette (very short stature)
Mother's mother born in Yoshkar-Ola, green eyed blonde (short stature)
Mother's father born in Savino, blue eyed brunette (very short stature)

Father born in Salobelyak(Petukhovo), hazel eyed blonde (very tall stature, around 6'2")
Father's father from Shulka, blue eyed blonde (short stature)
Father's mother born in Salobelyak, dark brown-eyed & blonde (very tall stature, 6 foot tall woman)

Ancestral surnames of my mother are: Petukhovy, Tsaregorotsevy, Izvozchikovy, Plotnikovy, Sharonovy

First, Eurogenes K13
1 Estonian 5.91
2 Finnish 6.28
3 Polish 6.89
4 Southwest_Finnish 7.21
5 Estonian_Polish 7.6
6 Belorussian 7.68
7 Russian_Smolensk 7.96
8 East_Finnish 8.23
9 Ukrainian 8.69
10 South_Polish 8.91
11 Kargopol_Russian 8.92
12 Southwest_Russian 9.31
13 Lithuanian 9.45
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.77
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.09
16 Erzya 12.77
17 La_Brana-1 14
18 North_Swedish 14.11
19 Croatian 15.14
20 East_German 16.16

Mixed mode:
1 94.9% Estonian + 5.1% Tu @ 3.96
2 95.6% Estonian + 4.4% Tujia @ 3.97
3 95.6% Estonian + 4.4% Lahu @ 3.97
4 95.6% Estonian + 4.4% Miaozu @ 3.97
5 95.2% Estonian + 4.8% Yizu @ 3.97
6 95.7% Estonian + 4.3% She @ 3.98
7 94.8% Estonian + 5.2% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 3.99
8 95.2% Estonian + 4.8% Naxi @ 3.99
9 95.2% Estonian + 4.8% Japanese @ 4.02
10 95.8% Estonian + 4.2% Vietnamese @ 4.04
11 96% Estonian + 4% Dai @ 4.06
12 95.5% Estonian + 4.5% Cambodian @ 4.09
13 90.1% Estonian + 9.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.11
14 90.1% Estonian + 9.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.13
15 95.4% Estonian + 4.6% Malay @ 4.14
16 89.5% Estonian + 10.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.14
17 95.1% Estonian + 4.9% Xibo @ 4.16
18 90.6% Estonian + 9.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.17
19 89.7% Estonian + 10.3% Portuguese @ 4.17
20 89.9% Estonian + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.17

Next, MDLP K23b
1 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 7.41
2 Russian-North-West ( ) 7.8
3 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 8.06
4 Erzya ( ) 8.13
5 Finn_West ( ) 8.58
6 Russian_North ( ) 8.62
7 Russian-West ( ) 8.7
8 Balt ( ) 8.83
9 German ( ) 9.02
10 Estonian ( ) 9.07
11 Moksha ( ) 9.32
12 Finnish_FIN ( ) 9.44
13 Kashub ( ) 9.51
14 Sorb ( ) 9.61
15 Russian-North ( ) 9.87
16 Russian-Ural ( ) 9.9
17 Latvian ( ) 10.01
18 Finnish-East ( ) 10.16
19 Finn_East ( ) 10.33
20 Russian_Vologda ( ) 10.62

1 50.6% Finn_West ( ) + 49.4% Russian-West ( ) @ 5.34
2 75.4% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) + 24.6% Swede ( ) @ 5.39
3 58.4% Finn_West ( ) + 41.6% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 5.41
4 76.1% Kashub ( ) + 23.9% Udmurd ( ) @ 5.43
5 81.3% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) + 18.7% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 5.45
6 50.2% Finn_West ( ) + 49.8% Russian_North ( ) @ 5.48
7 65.8% Finn_West ( ) + 34.2% Pole ( ) @ 5.51
8 79% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) + 21% Norwegian_East ( ) @ 5.53
9 69.4% Balt ( ) + 30.6% Swede ( ) @ 5.53
10 59.3% Finn_West ( ) + 40.7% Russian_South ( ) @ 5.53
11 53% Kashub ( ) + 47% Finn_East ( ) @ 5.56
12 76% Balt ( ) + 24% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 5.56
13 57.2% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) + 42.8% Finn_West ( ) @ 5.57
14 74.6% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) + 25.4% Dane ( ) @ 5.57
15 63.6% Finn_West ( ) + 36.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 5.59
16 51.2% Finn_West ( ) + 48.8% Balt ( ) @ 5.61
17 52.5% Kashub ( ) + 47.5% Finnish-East ( ) @ 5.61
18 50.3% Finnish_FIN ( ) + 49.7% Kashub ( ) @ 5.61
19 67.7% Finn_West ( ) + 32.3% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 5.62
20 67.8% Finn_West ( ) + 32.2% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 5.63

Next, MDLP World22
1 Russian_V (derived) 7.44
2 Russian_North (derived) 7.95
3 Sorb (derived) 8.41
4 Belarusian_V (derived) 8.55
5 Ukrainian-Center (derived) 8.75
6 Moldavian (derived) 8.9
7 Ukrainian_V (derived) 8.9
8 Ukrainian-West (derived) 9.2
9 Russian_cossack (derived) 9.26
10 Mordovian (derived) 9.33
11 Polish_V (derived) 9.34
12 Ukrainian-East (derived) 9.53
13 Russian_South (derived) 9.72
14 Polish (derived) 9.92
15 Mordovian_V (derived) 9.93
16 Russian_Center (derived) 10
17 Ukrainian (derived) 10.24
18 Slovakian (derived) 10.77
19 Swedish_V (derived) 12.33
20 Czech (derived) 12.35

1 65.9% Sorb (derived) + 34.1% Finnish (derived) @ 3.35
2 73.6% Sorb (derived) + 26.4% Finnish-South (derived) @ 3.46
3 79.2% Sorb (derived) + 20.8% Finnish-North (derived) @ 3.51
4 65.6% Belarusian_V (derived) + 34.4% Finnish (derived) @ 3.53
5 73.3% Belarusian_V (derived) + 26.7% Finnish-South (derived) @ 3.6
6 90.7% Belarusian_V (derived) + 9.3% Saami (derived) @ 3.61
7 62.5% Russian_North (derived) + 37.5% Swedish_V (derived) @ 3.62
8 92.8% Belarusian_V (derived) + 7.2% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 3.66
9 64.5% Sorb (derived) + 35.5% Inkeri (derived) @ 3.66
10 79% Belarusian_V (derived) + 21% Finnish-North (derived) @ 3.67
11 66% Russian_North (derived) + 34% Swedish (derived) @ 3.69
12 65.3% Russian_North (derived) + 34.7% German-North (derived) @ 3.74
13 90.9% Sorb (derived) + 9.1% Saami (derived) @ 3.74
14 67.2% Sorb (derived) + 32.8% Karelian (derived) @ 3.76
15 91.9% Belarusian_V (derived) + 8.1% Bra2 (derived) @ 3.79
16 59.2% Estonian (derived) + 40.8% Norwegian_V (derived) @ 3.8
17 59.3% Moldavian (derived) + 40.7% Swedish_V (derived) @ 3.83
18 93.1% Sorb (derived) + 6.9% North-European-Mesolithic (ancestral) @ 3.86
19 74.1% Russian_North (derived) + 25.9% Welsh (derived) @ 3.88
20 64.3% Belarusian_V (derived) + 35.7% Inkeri (derived) @ 3.9

Next, MDLP World
1 Russian_Center 3.02
2 Russian 3.32
3 Russian_V 3.74
4 Polish 4.1
5 Russian_South 4.22
6 Russian_cossack 4.54
7 Belarusian 4.93
8 Ukrainian-East 5.07
9 Ukrainian 5.13
10 Polish_V 5.56
11 Belarusian_V 6
12 Ukrainian-Center 6.67
13 Lithuanian_V 6.7
14 Moldavian 6.8
15 Mordovian 7.55
16 Sorb 7.63
17 Lithuanian 7.74
18 Ukrainian_V 8.1
19 Inkeri 8.68
20 Ukrainian-West 8.69

1 91.8% Russian + 8.2% Colville @ 2.21
2 95.1% Russian + 4.9% Nogai @ 2.27
3 96.1% Russian + 3.9% Uygur @ 2.3
4 92.6% Russian + 7.4% Tatar_Lithuania @ 2.35
5 98.3% Russian_Center + 1.7% Miaozu @ 2.36
6 98.3% Russian_Center + 1.7% She @ 2.36
7 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Chinese-South @ 2.36
8 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Lahu @ 2.36
9 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Dai @ 2.36
10 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Tujia @ 2.37
11 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Han @ 2.37
12 96.2% Russian + 3.8% Hazara @ 2.37
13 95.9% Russian + 4.1% Uzbek @ 2.38
14 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Han-Beijing @ 2.38
15 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Yizu @ 2.38
16 98.2% Russian_Center + 1.8% Naxi @ 2.39
17 98.1% Russian_Center + 1.9% Indian-East @ 2.4
18 98% Russian_Center + 2% Tu @ 2.41
19 95.9% Russian + 4.1% Karakalpak @ 2.41
20 98.1% Russian_Center + 1.9% Japanese @ 2.41

Next, Dodecad k7b
1 Russian (Dodecad) 1.96
2 Russian_B (Behar) 2.44
3 Russian (HGDP) 4.42
4 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 5.23
5 Belorussian (Behar) 5.78
6 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 6.08
7 Polish (Dodecad) 6.8
8 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 7.28
9 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 7.37
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 7.93
11 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 8.01
12 Finnish (Dodecad) 8.28
13 Norwegian (Dodecad) 9.04
14 Argyll (1000Genomes) 9.95
15 Orkney (1000Genomes) 10.51
16 Lithuanians (Behar) 10.57
17 Orcadian (HGDP) 10.92
18 Dutch (Dodecad) 11.06
19 Irish (Dodecad) 11.12
20 British (Dodecad) 11.69

1 67.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 32.5% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 1.4
2 77.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 22.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 1.47
3 58.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 41.2% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 1.55
4 77.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 22.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 1.55
5 87.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 12.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.56
6 87% Russian (Dodecad) + 13% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.56
7 57.5% Russian (HGDP) + 42.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 1.67
8 70% Russian_B (Behar) + 30% Russian (HGDP) @ 1.71
9 81.8% Russian_B (Behar) + 18.2% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.71
10 82.3% Russian_B (Behar) + 17.7% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 1.72
11 99.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.6% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 1.81
12 99.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.9% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 1.82
13 99.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.9% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 1.82
14 99.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.6% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 1.82
15 99.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.7% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 1.82
16 99.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.7% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 1.83
17 99.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.6% Yakut (HGDP) @ 1.84
18 97.5% Russian (Dodecad) + 2.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 1.85
19 99.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 0.7% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 1.87
20 89.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 10.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 1.87

Next, Puntdnalk10
1 Ukrainian 6.15
2 Belarusian 6.81
3 Mordovian 7.72
4 Norwegian 8.74
5 Scottish_West 9.24
6 Estonian 9.67
7 Russian 9.69
8 German_North 9.74
9 Finnish 10.34
10 Czech 10.4
11 Icelandic 10.4
12 Lithuanian 10.72
13 English_South 10.94
14 Irish 11.44
15 Hungarian 12.38
16 Utahn_white 12.81
17 Croatian 14.23
18 German_South 15.35
19 French 19.63
20 Chuvash 22.15

1 82.3% Estonian + 17.7% North_Ossetian @ 3.9
2 80.8% Estonian + 19.2% Chechen @ 4.05
3 85% Estonian + 15% Iranian @ 4.1
4 85.5% Estonian + 14.5% Abkhasian @ 4.11
5 81.5% Estonian + 18.5% Kumyk @ 4.17
6 85.7% Estonian + 14.3% Georgian @ 4.3
7 82% Estonian + 18% Turkish_Aydin @ 4.36
8 83.7% Estonian + 16.3% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.37
9 87.4% Belarusian + 12.6% Nogai @ 4.4
10 82% Estonian + 18% Lezgin @ 4.44
11 80.1% Lithuanian + 19.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 4.48
12 84.7% Estonian + 15.3% Kurdish @ 4.5
13 86% Estonian + 14% Armenian @ 4.57
14 80.9% Estonian + 19.1% Nogai @ 4.58
15 85.3% Estonian + 14.7% Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.59
16 91.1% Belarusian + 8.9% Hazara @ 4.6
17 90.1% Belarusian + 9.9% Uzbek @ 4.69
18 94.7% Belarusian + 5.3% Cambodian @ 4.77
19 95.2% Belarusian + 4.8% Vietnamese @ 4.83
20 95.2% Belarusian + 4.8% Han_Chinese @ 4.83

Next, Puntdnal k13
1 Russian 6.23
2 Mordovian 6.58
3 Polish 8.29
4 Belarusian 8.57
5 Estonian 9.42
6 Lithuanian 10.28
7 Latvian 10.6
8 Ukrainian 11.93
9 Swedish 13
10 Norwegian 14.03
11 German_North 14.89
12 Slovak 16.16
13 Finnish 16.43
14 Utahn_European 17.93
15 Slovene 18.13
16 Irish 18.18
17 Orcadian 18.78
18 Scottish 18.97
19 Hungarian 19.32
20 English 19.6

1 87% Estonian + 13% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.68
2 85.8% Lithuanian + 14.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.84
3 85.8% Estonian + 14.2% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.9
4 71.5% Estonian + 28.5% Tatar @ 4.96
5 69.1% Lithuanian + 30.9% Tatar @ 5
6 84.4% Lithuanian + 15.6% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5
7 83.2% Lithuanian + 16.8% Nogay @ 5.11
8 68.4% Latvian + 31.6% Tatar @ 5.15
9 85.5% Latvian + 14.5% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.17
10 82.7% Latvian + 17.3% Nogay @ 5.19
11 85% Estonian + 15% Nogay @ 5.22
12 84.1% Latvian + 15.9% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.28
13 96.5% Russian + 3.5% African_American @ 5.33
14 78.2% Polish + 21.8% Aluet @ 5.34
15 97.2% Russian + 2.8% Yoruba @ 5.35
16 97.2% Russian + 2.8% Esan @ 5.36
17 97% Russian + 3% Mende @ 5.36
18 96.9% Russian + 3.1% Bantu_SW @ 5.36
19 97.1% Russian + 2.9% Igbo @ 5.37
20 97.1% Russian + 2.9% Hausa @ 5.37

**Peterski** · 03-13-2022, 09:44 PM

What about Eurogenes K36 ???

**~~AndreAndre~~** · 03-13-2022, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Piotraschke

What about Eurogenes K36 ???

Amerindian 1.92 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.51 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.33 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 17.44 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 25.01 Pct
Fennoscandian 17.11 Pct
French 3.07 Pct
Iberian 0.06 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.79 Pct
Italian 0.54 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.26 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.1 Pct
North_Sea 13.69 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.6 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 4.08 Pct
West_African 0.43 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

**Peterski** · 03-13-2022, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by AndreAndre

Amerindian 1.92 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.51 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.33 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 17.44 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 25.01 Pct
Fennoscandian 17.11 Pct
French 3.07 Pct
Iberian 0.06 Pct
Indo-Chinese 0.79 Pct
Italian 0.54 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.26 Pct
North_Caucasian 3.1 Pct
North_Sea 13.69 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.6 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 4.08 Pct
West_African 0.43 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -

She is most similar to Russians from Kirov Oblast, Murom, Rostov Oblast, Perm Oblast, Novosibirsk Oblast and to ethnic Mordvins.

Is she 100% from Vyatka Oblast?

**~~AndreAndre~~** · 03-13-2022, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by Piotraschke

She is most similar to Russians from Kirov Oblast, Murom, Rostov Oblast, Perm Oblast, Novosibirsk Oblast and to ethnic Mordvins.

Is she 100% from Vyatka Oblast?

50% Kirov, 50% Mari-El. But both essentially the same thing if we talk about ethnic russians. No minorities in her lineage

**Peterski** · 03-13-2022, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by AndreAndre

No minorities in her lineage

I think she can be around 8% to 10% Germanic. Nothing recent?

**~~AndreAndre~~** · 03-13-2022, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Piotraschke

I think she can be around 8% to 10% Germanic. Nothing recent?

No, nothing recent.
it actually surprises me that my mother actually scores more North_Atlantic on K13 & other calculators than I do, despite me being half-southern Russian (who are supposedly more western).

Here's a Eurogenes k11 comparison between me and mom

MOM:
South Asian 0.97 Pct
Caucasus 1.76 Pct
Southwest Asian -
North Amerindian + Arctic 2.04 Pct
Siberian 0.86 Pct
Mediterranean 8.41 Pct
East Asian 0.31 Pct
West African 0.34 Pct
Volga-Ural 22.12 Pct
South Baltic 37.09 Pct
North Atlantic 26.1 Pct

Total western = 8.41+26.1 = 34.51
ME:
South Asian -
Caucasus 5.06 Pct
Southwest Asian -
North Amerindian + Arctic 1.59 Pct
Siberian 2.12 Pct
Mediterranean 5.77 Pct
East Asian 1.36 Pct
West African -
Volga-Ural 21.68 Pct
South Baltic 34.23 Pct
North Atlantic 28.19 Pct

Total western = 28.19+5.77 = 33.96