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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Also, it is ludicrous and hypocritical how much the West denounces Iran while being in thrall to the Saudis - the latter are, at an absolute minimum, equally theocratic and repressive as the former.
    Iran is treating religious and ethnic minorities better than most western orientated democracies.

    Are you aware of the Chinese genocide in Indonesia? And how the war criminals are heroes there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Again, what is with Assange and Snowden?

    At least Russia doesnt claim to be the beacon of freedom and democracy.

    No sane mind stands behind hypocrites and I dont stand behind Russia blindly and without criticism.

    Putin failed to stop social liberalism in Russia big times, I just hope that the isolation can lead to a from a right-wing view, fruitful development in terms of social policies, but who knows.
    Even taken on its own terms, the notion that Russia is a beacon of traditional morality against the decadent West is a joke. When it comes to abortion, divorce, alcoholism, suicide, childlessness, Russia is as bad if not worse than most Western countries. And Assange and Snowden may have been mistreated, but they weren't murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Iran is treating religious and ethnic minorities better than most western orientated democracies.
    Arabs, Sunnis, Kurds and Alevis might dispute that. Still, women and religious minorities are undoubtedly freer in Iran than in the KSA.

    Are you aware of the Chinese genocide in Indonesia? And how the war criminals are heroes there?

    No, but I am aware of the genocide against West Papuans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Even taken on its own terms, the notion that Russia is a beacon of traditional morality against the decadent West is a joke. When it comes to abortion, divorce, alcoholism, suicide, childlessness, Russia is as bad if not worse than most Western countries. And Assange and Snowden may have been mistreated, but they weren't murdered.
    Assange and Snowden had to flee as dissidents to escape the possible death penalty.

    And yes, Russia isnt a country of tradiotionalism, but it suggests that Putin passed any policies that lead to the degenerate factors, which he did not.

    I criticise that he did not combat these trends enough.

    He achieved good results on alcoholism
    And actively attacked trends of sexualization of children and a progressive definition of gender, equality and progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Assange and Snowden had to flee as dissidents to escape the possible death penalty.

    And yes, Russia isnt a country of tradiotionalism, but it suggests that Putin passed any policies that lead to the degenerate factors, which he did not.

    I criticise that he did not combat these trends enough.

    He achieved good results on alcoholism
    And actively attacked trends of sexualization of children and a progressive definition of gender, equality and progress.
    It is a false choice to choose between wholesale authoritarianism and the spread of Californian psychobabble/therapy culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    It is a false choice to choose between wholesale authoritarianism and the spread of Californian psychobabble/therapy culture.
    Well I respect you for even calling out the "Californian psychobabble/therapy culture".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Well I respect you for even calling out the "Californian psychobabble/therapy culture".
    It is a bogus distraction method used to blind us, or at least stop us talking about, real inequalities of wealth and power, often caused by those very same California-based corporations. Never mind that a CEO may earn 200 times that of his/her cleaner, let's all be kind and say what our preferred pronouns are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    It is a bogus distraction method used to blind us, or at least stop us talking about, real inequalities of wealth and power, often caused by those very same California-based corporations. Never mind that a CEO may earn 200 times that of his/her cleaner, let's all be kind and say what our preferred pronouns are!
    Yea I evolved to open my mind to class struggle and I think im not even that far away from you anymore economically. Still think within limits competition, private ownership, self-initiative and hard work should be benefited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Yea I evolved to open my mind to class struggle and I think im not even that far away from you anymore economically. Still think within limits competition, private ownership, self-initiative and hard work should be benefited.
    (1) Monopoly capitalism as we have now is precisely the opposite of true competitiveness - large corporations should be forcibly broken up and proper competition and markets could return (if they were ever there in the first place). (2) Whatever their many faults, Fascist regimes - Peronist Argentina, Falangist Spain and Portugal, Fascist Italy and even (ahem) Nazi Germany itself were more-or-less right about the economy - you privatise the small and the rural and socialise the big and the urban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Yea I evolved to open my mind to class struggle and I think im not even that far away from you anymore economically. Still think within limits competition, private ownership, self-initiative and hard work should be benefited.
    I believe that wealthy people have way too much money and that is unjust, but I'm not sure if more economic leftism is good idea as it could accelerate dysgenics. Maybe the wealth that is comes from taxing wealthy people should be redistributed to middle income people instead of low income people.
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