How many World Wars were there

[Peterski]

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Turns out even that one wasn't first (see my updated first post).

Count by century:

17th century - one world war
18th century - three world wars (!)
19th century - one world war
20th century - 2 or 3 world wars*

*Depending on how we count the Cold War.

[rothaer]

As for a world war I would not so much refer to where was fought, but where the belligerents themselves were situated.

[Peterski]

As for a world war I would not so much refer to where was fought, but where the belligerents themselves were situated.

Indeed.

And in the so called "Dutch-Portuguese War" there were also other belligerents (despite the misleading name suggesting only 2 belligerents):

Spanish Empire
Kingdom of England

Including the following non-European belligerents:

Ming Dynasty China
Kingdom of Hormuz
Kingdom of Cochin
Johor Sultanate
Kingdom of Kandy
Kingdom of Sitawaka
Jaffna Kingdom
Kingdom of Kongo
Kingdom of Ndongo
Rio Grande Tupis
Potiguara Tupis
Nhandui Tarairiu Tribe
Ayutthaya Kingdom (Siam)

[Salty Ears]

It was only in the 20th century that wars began to affect all segments of the population, and mass mobilization appeared. In this sense, the world wars took place in the 20th century

[Peterski]

It was only in the 20th century that wars began to affect all segments of the population, and mass mobilization appeared.

This is just another myth. Civilians were affected also in previous centuries. And world wars fought in the 18th century (1701-1715; 1740-1748; 1756-1763) saw mass mobilization at least in their North American theatre, where population size was small and everyone capable of bearing arms had to fight.

Also after the world war of 1756-1763 there were mass expulsions of civilian population (Acadians).

During the Napoleonic Wars, there was mass mobilization too - the Grande Armee was huge in size.

[Salty Ears]

During the Napoleonic Wars, there was mass mobilization too - the Grande Armee was huge in size.

It was after Revolution and destroying of aristocracy, monarchy. Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Freedom for human to die in the war. Peasants, teachers e.t.c. who are forced to become soldiers.

[rothaer]

It was only in the 20th century that wars began to affect all segments of the population, and mass mobilization appeared. In this sense, the world wars took place in the 20th century

I essentially agree to this, even if Peterska is right that wars affected civilians much too. Though much by famines and diseases.

The Seven Years War is also depicted as one of the last so called Cabinet Wars in contrast to these later wars with full conscription. Then big numbers of individuals died directly by war and not just by famines and dieases.

[Tutankhamun]

Indeed.

And in the so called "Dutch-Portuguese War" there were also other belligerents (despite the misleading name suggesting only 2 belligerents):

Spanish Empire
Kingdom of England

Including the following non-European belligerents:

Ming Dynasty China
Kingdom of Hormuz
Kingdom of Cochin
Johor Sultanate
Kingdom of Kandy
Kingdom of Sitawaka
Jaffna Kingdom
Kingdom of Kongo
Kingdom of Ndongo
Rio Grande Tupis
Potiguara Tupis
Nhandui Tarairiu Tribe
Ayutthaya Kingdom (Siam)

Something I know about this war is that in Brazil there were Calvinist indigenous loyal to Netherlands, after Portugal reconquered the northeast of Brazil that was under Dutch domination, these Calvinist indigenous were massacred by the Portuguese, Luso-Brazilians and indigenous loyal to Portugal.


There is even a painting from this period called ''Calvinists indigenous''

[Peterski]

It was after Revolution and destroying of aristocracy, monarchy. Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. Freedom for human to die in the war. Peasants, teachers e.t.c. who are forced to become soldiers.

In exchange for that obligation of military service, ordinary men (peasants etc.) got rights, including political rights such as the right to vote in elections. The right to vote was strictly connected with the obligation of military service. Later feminists broke this principle - women got political rights without military service.

It is therefore unfair that women can vote but don't have to serve in the army.

Of course in some countries - like Israel - women serve in the army, so it is fair.

[Peterski]

^^^
Russian men have no democratic rights and still get forcibly conscripted and go as cannon fodder to Ukraine.

So my status as a man in a democratic country is better.

But still it annoys me that women can vote, while not having to fight.

Call me a Judeophile (which I indeed am) but in Israel there is true gender equality because women can vote but also must fight - just like men.