A conceptual Mistake about This Ukrainian War

[Hexachordia]

Can we say that Russia becomes a strategic shield against the western high-tech war for China? 我们是否能说俄罗斯成为了中国的抵御西方高科技战争的战略之盾？

From what I said earlier that only Russia can afford to fight an all out high-tech war with the west, can we say that China benefits from this war strategically？Not necessarily, it is true that China can not win such an all out conventional war with the west, but it does not equate with the idea that China can benefit from Russia fighting this war. Economically, China is losing huge long term strategic interests as Russia no longer maintains peace dialogue with the west, China could be a powerful leverage for Russia in this dialogue where China can benefit from both parties. Now, with Russia totally sanctioned, it is unwise to economically become much involved with Russia for China, eventually, the supwerpower status quo of Russia will infiltrate China in return. I warned before that Russia is still a superpower, we need to recognize this fact. This Ukrainian War just shows how powerful the western bloc is not that how weak Russia has become, China or any weaker eastern european countries must be careful not to measure Russia using the outcome of this war. This war is not a war any of us can afford to fight therefore this war can not be our measure for Russia.

Is the west so scary? No, it just shows how delicate diplomacy can be. We must be wise as to the delicacy with Russia as with the west, through understanding this delicacy, we can develop our own long term strategic goals too. Through this understanding, we can ensure a safe and prosperous future. Russia is not less scary than the west, especially when we are doped to believe she is weak. She is not weak, and the west is not too much more powerful than Russia, the west has literally exerted all its convention powers onto this war, I say, this is a real WW3. Still do not believe it?

China does not need to fight such a war with the west, the USA knows alone against China, she will lose too. But the whole western bloc is not a right opponent to choose for a war, Russia is the only one which is capable of suffer such pressure. This level of pressure onto any other country in the world, would have shatter it in a few days. Can China totally back down from friendly nicety with Putin? if you want a nuclear war, let China condemn Russia. Conventional hightech war is still the true measure of power, when I see Russia begins to develop their own chips I feel a bit cold in my spine. Truly I have no reserve of trust for Russia`s scope of peace when we already have enough of the USA`s. Russia is too unpredictable for her to be a strategic shield for China, although China can learn a lot from this war about how a regional conventional hightech war could be fought, but still, China can not strategically assume a similar position of Russia in any war. However hard you try, look at the territory of China, in a few days, high precision bombing can halt the whole productions and power grids, also remember the 3 Gorge Dam. We can learn about a regional hightech war not an all out high tech war like this, any future theatre liks this Ukrain War is to be avoided like nuclear warfare. Therefore, considering the danger of using Russia as a leverage, as well the unpracticability of an all out theatre with the west, Russia is not necessarily a shield for China, but still, an indispensible friend for long term security when we can work in a transparent global community.

想象俄罗斯只要拥有近乎韩国的半导体与制造科技就够了，足以令人胆寒。所以，俄罗斯的超级大国地位并不是中 国可以用来当作盾牌使用的，再考虑与西方集团开展传统全面战争的不实际性，这场战争并不是“俄罗斯帮中国挡 枪”的一个局面。“挡枪”思考思考是自我麻痹，应该把这次战争当成一个全面的警钟。我们需要看到的是资本集 团的强大与在这个背景下我们的长远目标的现实意义，然后就是核武威慑已经成为了历史，应该从被核武器或是俄 罗斯保护的迷梦中醒来。无论是外交还是安全，中国必须要独立承担和独立思考。

[Hexachordia]

Some people are mystified as to why the west becomes so hostile toward Russia as if they were hysterical.

I have realized this situation since the beginning of war myself had been pondering too. I thought I have answered this question in previous posts but now I think itis time to sum the points up for this question specifically since it sounds very relevant for many people. Most people still believe Russia belongs mainly to the west I personally agree, russian far-eastern territories are to be taken as colonies and Russia herself as a western superpower. But how come NATO can be in such a histile mood against Russia a fellow western brother? considering Russia is constitutionally democratic and also a post-communist country. I tried to answer this question by using the precedent of the 30 Years War from 1618-1648 in Europe, as being incited by religious differences. I also meant to alert to the religious undertones behind this war by citing 30 YsW. But in fear of conspiracist implications I avoided to point out, but now I would say the west is probably in hostility toward Putin`s christian nationalism.

The Russian Church’s Nationalism

Stefano Caprio, a priest and professor of Russian History and Culture at Rome’s Pontifical Oriental Institute, received this question from journalist Leone Grotti: “Why is the Russian Orthodox Church historically so tied to political power?”

Fr. Caprio answered: “It would take too long to give an exhaustive answer; let’s say they are together from the very origin of Russia. Even during the Soviet Union, when the Orthodox Church was persecuted, Stalin decided to dust it off during Hitler’s invasion to rekindle the patriotic spirit. Thus was born the church of Stalin, a former seminarian who as a child dreamed of becoming the patriarch of Georgia. And Kirill, as a young monk, was raised by Stalin’s group of metropolitans.”15

Bohdan Oghulchanskij is a Ukrainian with “almost thirty years of experience of priesthood, including a long tenure in the Moscow Patriarchate.” He shows the role played by the Russian schismatic church in Russian nationalism: “Religious exceptionalism, self-identification as ‘Holy Russia,’ ‘The Third Rome, and the Fourth cannot be,’ resided in the Russian religious consciousness. . . . [N]ationalism, as many researchers note, is very characteristic of Orthodoxy. . . . [I]n Russia, Orthodoxy has always been an instrument of the imperial state.”

Although modern catholic church pretends to uphold the Just War theory formulated by themselves, I do not think they honestly follow these principles. This is a serious hypocrisy of the western church, they might have some deep grudge against Russia`s independent church and this is a theory I have hinted many times before in this forum. But this still do not elaborate the level of hysteria? yes, I noticed some people also think that the west is trying to make an exmaple of Russia for China, I was so underwhelmed by this theory that I actually ignored this whole question untill now.

Principles of Natural Law and Catholic Doctrine on Just War

To make up for the archbishop’s omission, let us recall some principles of natural law and Catholic doctrine on just war. Summarizing natural law and Catholic doctrine, Fr. Francisco de Vitoria, O.P. (1492–1546), considered “the founder of international law,” gives the reasons why war is just or unjust:

FIRST, difference of religion cannot be a cause of just war. . . .
SECOND, enlargement of empire cannot be a cause of just war. . . .
THIRD, the personal glory or convenience of the prince is not a cause of just war. . . .
FOURTH, the sole and only just cause for waging war is when harm has been inflicted. . . .
FIFTH, not every or any injury gives sufficient grounds for waging war.6

China obvious is much weaker than Russia against the west this war proves it. The west does not need to tame China through Russia with such hostility, the open market policy of China is the best proof, since China dared not invade Taiwan and the US also can not intervene without a Ukraine in the South China Sea to invite a foreign assistance. But they could be preparing, and the South China sea theatre is a totally different strategy from Ukraine, one is a total naval problem as the other is land mobilisations. The rally of the whole western bloc is a feature which can not be duplicated against China unless China invaded Taiwan first. This is unlikely to happen since it never happened before. CCP will never dare, the west knows it, but a nationalist like Putin will dare. Therefore the most sound motivation is the anti-christian nationalism from the western libertarian wing. There is another side nudge from the status quo of Russia as a superpower, as a superpower Russia is capable of sustaining a test for rallying and for a new concept of informatic warfare, yes, just because Russia is big enough to suffer this torture and survive to their maximum interests. This explanation also exempt the Taming China theory from the rationales, because China can not withstand such a war and sanctions like Russia does now, even they wanted to test on China. But wait, they would test some other things on China, like currently pressuration on China to condemn Russia, they want a nuclear war with Putin and come out victorious morally and militarily and then blame China for everything. They are testing our essence of human qualities. The US could also be testing the world through various side-operations which are feasible in the processes of this war.

2 points to sum up:

1-Libertarian radicalism against Christian nationalism by Putin and his Russia. I also have said that having an independent church itself is a warrant of western hostility.
2-Russia as a superpower is sufficiently powerful to serve as a experimental sample for a new concept of high-tech warfare and an excuse for a large rally.

But I am against christian nationalism as well, because it is unnatural in our time, ideologically I am without the religious hostility of the western libertarian wings. Obviously western libertarians are not atheist, whatever they believe in I just do not believe a true atheist person can be so much instrumental in a war mobilisation against Putin and Russia. Just not to start with Freemasonry arguments. As you see, I am religious, so I am sensitive to Russia`s nationalism in Christianity. The second is evil, is what worries me the most, for this war becomes a promotion for new a wave of regional wars in this Ukraine formula: cross-nation civilian cooperations with kill efficient weapons to overthrow or make any regime as long as one has the money. You know as there are markets and free capitals, anything can happen. Capitalism can bring limitless evil into this world if we do not wake up. When we have a motive is sufficiently evil, where else you need to look for an explanation?

[Hexachordia]

The source of Backwardness of eastern powers.东方大国集团颓废的真正根源

Consider a country with GDP as small as a chinese province yet with an american ambition in geopolitical influences. What kind of influences it means to have if economically it is not powerful enough? When this ambition becomes an actual war, causing many death, for what? even threatening nuclear war on the rest of the world? So similar is chinese communism, although economically powerful but all found on the bubble of realestates and internal debts which by non-transparent system, are not liable to be paid back. Chinese government can take whatever they want from chinese banks without any voice of questioning. Daily people are spammed with lies, although politics is not that relevant but a lie is a lie no matter its content, if I tell you to call color white as black, and you have no right to resist, you will eventually follow my rule. Both russian and chinese governments rule over their people through lies, a kind of lies which are not even relevant to people who have to suffer them, almost like shaping an ontological environment using peoples weaknesses, so that they can survive in the false world however they trick and deceive the whole world. If they are allowed to deceive their people, then, they can feel they are authorized to lie to anyone with innocence. Therefore although economically powerful, culturally China is weak, easily become a prey of evil illusions, China is more susceptible to economic corruption than Russia, militarily very fragile, could be weaker than Russia today. Because China lacks philosophy for common good and truth, it can not become a real international influencer with its huge economy which easily become corrupt, this explains why chinese investments mostly become a corrupt fund that creat instant disparity. China and Russia have nothing to win except for a national pride from a confrontation with NATO, and we will still have to face all the problems the west have had and brought to the rest of the world: separatism, corruption, ignorance, lies, autocracy, hypocrisy. The national pride is as hypocritical as oligarch pride in his own wealth. It seems the east has always been fixated on national pride for millania. That is because of the spiritual trauma that is mistreated by false physician, falling for cheap victory without substance.

What can Russia win from this war? pride, nothing else, not real security, Russia trusts no one, but war, and the thin veil of ethical brotherhood with Donbass in this war can be blown away once nuclear were used. Like losing everything for a false victory, to survive in hell by trading ones own proper life, but allowing our souls become preys for ghosts and demons, while walking. China`s economy also lacks substance, which is to be exchanged in the long future for spending and making our wealth justly and wisely. Russia nd China are still iving under the shadow of the west, fearing the Sun, cuddling in this man-made darkness as a shelter from light, fighting their own illusions and ghosts, languishing in this comfort of ignorance, a kind of nationalist cowardice. Let me say this, when we can blame the west for imperialism, we must blame ourself for being a source of spiritual darkness in this world, russian and chinese people are releasing a dark force from their own ways of life in cowardice and ignorance. I know this war is pivoted around chinese people`s weaknesses, like WW2 around russian peoples defeat. The repercussion will be the worst for China. 中国与俄罗斯人民是世界上精神黑暗能量的根源，不知不觉中，我们生存在一个人造的黑暗世界中与自己的幽灵和 幻觉斗争，害怕光明本身，如同我们满足于生活再政府的阴影下，而政府满足于西方的阴影下，政府与人民之间自 欺欺人。从一个程度上，中国与俄罗斯人民是这场战争的真正罪魁祸首。

[Hexachordia]

The true wealth of nations

Adam Smith first proposed the idea of commonwealth, by individual interests coming into a greater good under the hand of invisible mechanism. But he never thought about when this so called wealth accumulated so much as to threaten the sustainability of our lives? when disparity is impoosible to close in? The question is left for future generations without alerts. Wealth is what? no a box of jewels like indian merchants keep in their secret vaults while leaving poor people walk in scavenging or printed papers called currency. The true wealth is a sound national integrity, and this is so hard to accomplish people mistake it for a start.

We believe the west invented capitalism and got rich through colonialism, that they were powerful so they started the colonizations. This is the opposite, national integrity is the ultimate goal forever, to be exchanged for any amount of money and wealth. Ideas are the true wealth !! Simply sound ideas, the most cherished and true. Like spiritual awakening, not dimensional ascension, but simply self-determination!!

China has money, but should she trade this money for greater good, she will have integrity and peace, yes, truth can not be bought, but it is when we treat wealth not as merchandise but wealth itself. We simply transform this wealth into another wealth, through our wisdom and grace. Trade when done in a wealth way, it is but a means of transformation. Trade, capitals are subordinate to this transformation of wealth, into good ideas and for aeternal prosperity. Trade is just a tiny part of this transformation,
transformation itself is the essence of wealth, the ability and the richness in transformation denote the true power of a nation. War is also a form of this transformation, so is colonialism, so is constitutionalism, so is institutionalism, so is democracy, these are the richness of tools of transformation, this is how the west master the power capitalism and use it against or for anyone they want. Culture is a transformation as well, a basis of wealth, like nature. Industrialism, commercialism, sound a bell for transformation too, making raw materials into products. Money is superfacial like invisible dusts upon a water surface, when people got absorbed with capitals, is like being drowned in a shallow pool of dirty water. Transformation is as religious as it is scientific, it is the real power of our world, a real ocean of wonders beyond our dunes and creeks and horizon.

财富的转化是财富的真正意义所在，甚至可以说，转化本身就是财富的精髓。把贸易和商业变成财富的一个部分而 不是一个独立的过程，使得财富不断地进行与时俱进的转化，促进思想与概念和技术的革新与永恒的转化，这样的 有秩序的，有意义的，可持续的转化机制才是财富本身的意义所在。这样的转化可以服务所有的行业与生活的任何 方面，可以维持一个永久的社会和国家的发展。商业不是转化的全部，仅仅是转化机制的一个很小的部分，商业贸 易的财富并不是真正的财富。能够进行非商业转化的财富才是财富的根源和本源，而且财富的本源必须凌驾于商业 财富，这样才能使得一个国家真正具有共同财富基础的良性社会。

I will not write a long thesis, because all the truth lies in simple forms people choose to ignore.

[Hexachordia]

Nations will exist forever, the doomsday is not physical but spiritual.

Never give up, any nation, believe in God. God do not creat a world to perish, God will sustain it for aeternity. Sun is immortal, so is planet Earth, but our souls are not, which will under go trials and destined transformations. The west spread false concepts, even as far as to take the false blames. No one is too late to wake up, your country will prosper as long as you sincerely work for this goal. They try to lead us into false hysterias, self-delusions, and make themselves as saviors. They are no God, God do not use money as his seal what a joke.

We shall prosper.

[Hexachordia]

The book of truth is inside everyones mind. There is no end to the making of a nation. 国家民族是永恒的，太阳与地球也是永恒的，建设国家是没有尽头没有捷径的使命。

Nationalism is out-dated but making a nation is an aeternal mission. People today get doped to consider all the short-cuts: communism, racial supremacism/as if race can solve all the problems, capitalism. This is not right and all half-truth. Nationalism is a half-truth, so is capitalism. My theory has almost precedent so finding corroborative quotes will be subsequent efforts. I say that the world is aeternal, so are all the nations, not just God, immediately bring aeternity to everyone. Not urging everyone to repent for after life nor immerse oneself in empty promises, but simply calling out a mind that is in immediat etouch in aeternity. You are free from the beginning, it is also not necessary to kill a God to justify this freedom.

Nations are our myth, real devine manifestations relevant to everyone. If you think your nation is not good enough, that is because it is in the making, no country is good enough including the west, however illusions will say just to make others worse so yours will be better. This is how communism and capitalism works, there is no short-cuts to make a nation, just work it out. The spiritual war is aeternal, through this war, we can shatter illusions and leg dragging ghosts in our way, prepare ourself as a real free mason of ones own nation. No end for a better nation, nor short-cuts, everything is still up to oneself, to be a better nation. No chicken soup, because chicken soups are not magical, but this is magical: our nations are aeternal, we are born with an mission to make a nation from every scrap.

神创造的世界和国家是永恒的，给予我们无限的机会，一切都由我们自己创造。国家的建设是没有尽头的，如同精 神之圣战一样，是永恒的使命，只要安心做好眼前的事情，一切问题都会解决。如果我们的国家还不够好，也不需 要去迷恋历史的迷梦，只需要勇敢往前看，努力地不断创新，建设，挑战自我的极限就够了。这不是简单的鸡汤， 鸡汤没有魔法，而这是一个永恒的魔法，给予了我们永恒的国家和世界。

[Hexachordia]

To chinese government and CCP

Time to move, this is a WW3 we must join it right now. Though we do not have to send weapons and gadgets to Russia but we can send military advicers. We must help Russia where we can. Do not be so dumb. I can help Russia in strategy and tactics but I am not a military personel once involved I will never be able to be free again. I cherish my freedom so I pass.

中国该行动了，根据形式的变化，以合适的形式参与这次战争，以国家安全为底线，做最坏准备和打 算。

[Hexachordia]

如今整个西方联合起来对付俄罗斯，是时候认真考虑军事介入援俄。If this war become prolonged, China must eventually intervene on Russia`s behalf.

I have severely underestimated the whole theatre of this war. To make invasion into Russia territory a term of intervention could be too naive already. Although I determined that the west intends invasion but till then it would be too late. Since the nature of this war is quite novel in terms of tactics and technologies employed. A prolonged theatre should warrant a chinese intervention, if this war continued for a year, China should start to militarily support Russia and take on the USA. This is not a question of Russia`s invasion, this war has gone to far already, it is an anti-humanity agenda. 这是一场由西方发起的反人类战争，经济制裁的真正目的是掩盖这个真相。

This is my last post in this thread.

[Danica]

This Russian-Ukrainian war confuses me.

It seems that this is more of a defensive reaction by Russia against globalist forces.
NATO is today a tool of the globalists (US + EU oligarchs).

[Danica]

Nationalism is a good thing that protects the people against the globalist oligarchs.

Think of nationalism as a "people's union" similar to labor union, that protects the interests of the people.

Read this - Reconceptualizing a New Benevolent (Soft) Nationalism