Ancestralidad centroeuropea (55%)

[Gallop]

Los hallazgos y estudios genéticos que cambian la historia del poblamiento de la Península Ibérica

Las últimas investigaciones científicas desvelan una serie de oleadas de poblaciones de Centroeuropa a finales de la Edad del Bronce y principios de la Edad del Hierro que tuvieron un gran efecto demográfico.



https://www.elespanol.com/el-cultura...wzn2CdTbPVUesw

[Hasien]

pues ojala sea cierto, esto nos hace los mexicanos como un 15-20% germanicos lel.

[B01AB20]

Como en America, pero aquí.

Una mestización masiva, pero como solo quedamos los mestizos y no sabemos como eran los nativos ni los invasores es como si nunca hubieran existido y nosotros existieramos desde siempre.

[Gallop]

Recuerdo que usuarios españoles en otros sitios se preguntaban por qué sacaban tan alto en Centro Europa, recuerdo que en mi primer resultado de FTDNA me dieron un 44%, después me lo han bajado a 28%, no sé yo... generalmente los usuarios buscan algún referente más moderno que explique algunos resultados y quizá sean más antiguos. También se da el caso de españoles que han obtenido muy alto en Italia y tampoco aciertan a descifrarlo.

Que descanso para los pies, un artículo donde no se hace hincapié recalcándose la singularidad de los vascos.

Alguna opinión más...

[SangreAzul]

¡Siempre supe que éramos germánicos, celtas! Parezco un celta español puro.

[Gallop]

¡Siempre supe que éramos germánicos, celtas! Parezco un celta español puro.

¿Cómo y cuándo tuviste conciencia de ello?

[Defcon2]

Calculadora chusca sobre esto, en general somos mas parecidos a los centroeuropeos de la edad de hierro que a los ibéricos del neolítico y cobre:

Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.1614% / 0.03161368
59.2 Central_European
19.6 Iberian
14.2 Berber
7.0 Mediterranean

Central_European:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.034238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Central_European:CZE_IA_Hallstatt,0.1278071,0.1415939,0.0551134,0.0315617,0.0457227,0.0081674,0.0064123,0.006725,0.0080641,0.0107519,-0.0054053,0.0034041,-0.008686,-0.0081197,0.005739,0.0059664,0.001341,0.0010317,0.0040941,0.0012861,0.0054546,0.0036921,-0.0022184,-0.0063174,0.0014883
Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene,0.1284778,0.1377312,0.0579352,0.0361356,0.0412615,0.0101586,0.0027613,0.0036806,0.0074396,0.01031,-0.0033128,0.0050467,-0.01235,-0.0093514,0.008815,0.0062748,-0.0002836,0.0016817,0.0011124,0.0031359,0.0036311,0.0030264,-0.0021814,0.0015634,-0.0011615
Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt,0.127482,0.142174,0.052797,0.026809,0.038469,0.01004,0.00188,-0.001385,0.013499,0.020046,-0.001624,0.005245,-0.007582,-0.012937,0.001221,0.013524,0.022948,0.005448,0.004022,0.006628,0.009483,0.010758,-0.006286,-0.004458,0.000958
Iberian:Iberia_MN,0.1212218,0.1627387,0.0523252,-0.033592,0.0853235,-0.0214745,-0.0098702,-0.0010385,0.0643228,0.0923028,-0.003004,0.0138628,-0.032854,-0.0157232,-0.0081772,-0.0003315,0.0109522,0.004244,-0.001257,-0.00544,0.0181868,0.0046368,-0.0155598,-0.0405782,0.0024248
Iberian:Iberia_N,0.1239407,0.1755737,0.0341921,-0.0626261,0.0768007,-0.0339317,-0.004439,-0.0011793,0.0618117,0.0996021,0.0021292,0.015586,-0.0343077,-0.0108723,-0.0189858,-0.0058929,0.0074029,0.001844,0.0048463,-0.0070036,0.002468,0.0035996,-0.008148,-0.0235909,9.3e-05
Iberian:Iberia_North_CA,0.1348802,0.168324,0.062885,-0.0266475,0.0865545,-0.0193132,-0.0029962,0.005769,0.0692312,0.095583,-0.0002842,0.0192202,-0.0335972,-0.0178565,-0.003393,-0.003878,0.0024448,0.0026602,3.15e-05,-0.0033765,0.0159715,0.002102,-0.0174085,-0.041211,0.0055382
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_CA,0.129758,0.167562,0.056191,-0.029393,0.08617,-0.0251,-0.006815,-0.001615,0.066061,0.099319,-0.001299,0.014987,-0.032408,-0.015276,-0.005565,0.008618,0.008214,0.013429,0.004777,-0.003126,0.016221,0.007419,-0.018734,-0.043259,0.002515
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_MLN,0.1258561,0.1704637,0.0529047,-0.039406,0.0901707,-0.0212354,-0.0049016,0.0039559,0.0634316,0.0944244,-0.0020646,0.0167853,-0.0307091,-0.0175763,-0.005138,0.0010987,0.0051967,0.0032034,-0.0005209,-0.004127,0.0115331,0.0051229,-0.0170083,-0.0366319,0.0007699
Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_CA,0.1232544,0.1675623,0.0484331,-0.041021,0.0871371,-0.0262954,-0.0067144,0.0015823,0.0667331,0.0912741,-0.0020183,0.0166567,-0.030603,-0.0184417,-0.0079299,0.0025571,0.0118649,0.0030769,-0.000467,-0.0044844,0.007255,0.0006536,-0.0132579,-0.0345143,0.0012487
Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_MLN,0.1261811,0.1677073,0.0457934,-0.042959,0.0838399,-0.0274906,-0.0071173,-0.0006594,0.0686909,0.0943201,0.0008583,0.0181337,-0.0329389,-0.0142144,-0.0076001,-0.0033906,0.0013783,0.002968,0.0018857,-0.0046451,0.0077719,0.0038863,-0.0161279,-0.037768,0.0005473
Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_CA,0.1241811,0.1641095,0.0517787,-0.0317186,0.085031,-0.0249049,-0.0043945,0.0008538,0.0672883,0.0966034,0.0012667,0.0143421,-0.034415,-0.0172579,-0.0059174,-0.0008619,0.008879,0.0031166,0.0002262,-0.0010756,0.0148113,0.0058859,-0.0177477,-0.0472356,0.0059156
Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_EN,0.129758,0.165531,0.043369,-0.062662,0.080015,-0.031515,-0.012456,0.007846,0.069129,0.094763,0.003735,0.018733,-0.031665,-0.006055,-0.016558,-0.013789,-0.004042,0.010262,0.007039,-0.009755,0.001373,0.001237,-0.016638,-0.015183,0.002874
Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_MLN,0.1225493,0.1648543,0.0487743,-0.041021,0.085452,-0.0256577,-0.004935,-0.0016923,0.065993,0.093001,0.002057,0.0125387,-0.0256193,-0.0159183,-0.0060623,0.0037567,0.012517,0.0048143,0.000545,-0.003585,0.016596,0.0056057,-0.0175427,-0.0430987,0.000359
Iberian:Iberia_Central_CA,0.1263435,0.1690857,0.0548712,-0.029716,0.095864,-0.0212652,-0.0072262,0.0002305,0.0659078,0.0904348,-0.007064,0.0140125,-0.0315535,-0.0146222,-0.0047842,0.0045082,0.0117018,0.0010768,-0.0014452,-0.0030325,0.01541,0.0018858,-0.0118318,-0.030607,0.0013172
Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42,0.079676,0.149283,-0.061094,-0.091409,-0.011079,-0.028168,-0.003525,-0.010153,0.01309,0.010023,0.006171,-0.002548,0.01219,0.004266,-0.009229,0.007292,-0.001173,0.002027,0.004399,0.001251,-0.001248,0.008285,0.001849,0,-0.001916
Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.00817367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533

[alnortedelsur]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2290% / 0.05228966
63.8 Central_European
24.0 Berber
12.2 Mediterranean

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.09590454 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene
0.09663725 Central_European:CZE_IA_Hallstatt
0.09689252 Central_European:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.09921738 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt
0.11755810 Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean
0.14855980 Iberian:Iberia_MN
0.15217197 Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.15223899 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_CA
0.15317616 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_MLN
0.15366542 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_MLN
0.15417982 Iberian:Iberia_Central_CA
0.15520766 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_CA
0.15580881 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_MLN
0.15902083 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_EN
0.15988469 Iberian:Iberia_N
0.15989609 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_CA
0.15994302 Iberian:Iberia_North_CA
0.18522617 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

[Defcon2]

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 5.2290% / 0.05228966
63.8 Central_European
24.0 Berber
12.2 Mediterranean

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.09590454 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene
0.09663725 Central_European:CZE_IA_Hallstatt
0.09689252 Central_European:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.09921738 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt
0.11755810 Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean
0.14855980 Iberian:Iberia_MN
0.15217197 Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.15223899 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_CA
0.15317616 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_MLN
0.15366542 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_MLN
0.15417982 Iberian:Iberia_Central_CA
0.15520766 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_CA
0.15580881 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_MLN
0.15902083 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_EN
0.15988469 Iberian:Iberia_N
0.15989609 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_CA
0.15994302 Iberian:Iberia_North_CA
0.18522617 Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche

Añadiendo las referencias que te faltan sale el ibérico:

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 2.5547% / 0.02554691
52.0 Central_European
19.6 Mediterranean
11.0 Berber
7.4 Iberian
6.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
3.4 Yoruba

[Gallop]

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.05589286 Central_European:CZE_IA_Hallstatt
0.05980968 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene
0.05989561 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt
0.06031653 Central_European:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.10838209 Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean
0.11047228 Iberian:Iberia_MN
0.11190230 Iberian:Iberia_Central_CA
0.11293854 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_CA
0.11436904 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_MLN
0.11481497 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_MLN
0.11589400 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_CA
0.11598953 Iberian:Iberia_North_CA
0.11615581 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_MLN
0.11958207 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_CA
0.12677802 Iberian:Iberia_N
0.12714216 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_EN
0.16420390 Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.21315744 Canary_Islands_Guanche


Distance to: Father_scaled
0.05708177 Central_European:CZE_IA_Hallstatt
0.05880237 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene_Hallstatt
0.06085958 Central_European:CZE_IA_La_Tene
0.06211972 Central_European:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.10724147 Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean
0.11223419 Iberian:Iberia_MN
0.11341108 Iberian:Iberia_Central_CA
0.11410998 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_CA
0.11605637 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_MLN
0.11628222 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_MLN
0.11862504 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_CA
0.11868519 Iberian:Iberia_Southeast_MLN
0.11873872 Iberian:Iberia_North_CA
0.12105136 Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_CA
0.12786322 Iberian:Iberia_N
0.12837668 Iberian:Iberia_Southwest_EN
0.16482265 Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42
0.20972255 Canary_Islands_Guanche



No está mal la distancia, en la calculadora obtengo 0.02 mejor distancia que ustedes dos, es un dato, no estoy fardando, alnortedelsur se entiende pero Defcon estoy viendo que estás obteniendo distancias más grandes 3, 5 e.t.c en las calculadoras, parece que no te estás ajustando tan bien como el resto de españoles, al menos es la impresión que me ha dado.