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    Are there any creationists here, who believe in intelligent desgin instead of evolution?
    And if - why?
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    Yes I believe in creation and intelligent design, and the creator of everything is the God of the Bible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes I believe in creation and intelligent design, and the creator of everything is the God of the Bible.
    OK, you obviously know that there are races - how do you think they came about?
    There are some that are closely related, is this a coincidence in your opinion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batavia View Post
    OK, you obviously know that there are races - how do you think they came about?
    There are some that are closely related, is this a coincidence in your opinion?
    God created humanity with much genetic potential and inherent diversity, so they could adapt to a wide variety of settings. Therefore certain traits were naturally selected within certain groups. And of course then through inbreeding and genetic bottlenecks, much of that initial genetic diversity is lost, as isolated groups settle away from others. That's how ethnicities and races developed. And, nowadays, the opposite is happening with all these isolated groups intermixing again. Think about it, it makes a lot of sense.
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    Well, I believe there could be supernatural powers, but its hard for me to believe in a god who created the universe... and the bible?
    It is just one old religious book among many.
    Jesus sure was a important person at his liefetime, but there were hundreds of Jesus´.

    I don´t want to offend you, but if you were born in viking scandinavia for example you would you believe in Thor and Odin instead of Jesus.
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    Yeah, I create new theories daily with no confirmation yet.

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    God created the world in 7 days of course obviously. No other answer satisfies me.

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    Most cosmologists are creationists these days. Of course not the Richmond version a few thousand years ago, nor calling it creationism. They call it an intelligent design at the begining of the universe or a high CSI case (complexed specified information) which is only a slighty saner way to say that none of all this appeared randomly, that it is so fine tuned for anything to exist, there is 1 against a power of 10 with 123 zeros after it, to happen. On the other hand that sort black hole bubble we live in seems to roll the dices a lot, as unlikely as it is we could only witness the improbability of it because we exist. Maybe it did roll the dices for a great amount of time, out of nothingness, until something started to happen.

    Yet there is irreducible complexity to the premises, like a complex machine today could only appear because someone created it. Nature doesn't create on its own a mouse trap or a car for example, let alone in a fraction of time at the begining of time, even rolling the dices of physical equations for an eternity. More handy is the simulation theory, like a video game that fires up at the press of a button, as lately we ve discovered the universe has a minimal definition too, even beyond the planck length, like a pixel in a computer rendering program. Not much more reasonable than an intelligent design, it's just another form of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batavia View Post
    Well, I believe there could be supernatural powers, but its hard for me to believe in a god who created the universe... and the bible?
    It is just one old religious book among many.
    Jesus sure was a important person at his liefetime, but there were hundreds of Jesus´.

    I don´t want to offend you, but if you were born in viking scandinavia for example you would you believe in Thor and Odin instead of Jesus.
    No, you are actually wrong on all counts.

    Also, Scandinavians don't follow Thor and Odin anymore, do they? Instead, Scandinavians abandoned their paganism, like everyone else, and followed Jesus -- Scandinavian Christian missionaries also played an important part in world evangelisation.

    Now, the modern trend of people going away from their Christian roots was also predicted in the Bible. And no, there is no other book like the Bible... ever. And there has never been anyone like Jesus on earth. He is unique in so many ways... you just haven't researched it yet. You should.
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