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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I can't say for certain, but I know that humans and dinosaurs coexisted at least for some time. Where do you think all the legends of dragons come from? There are even historical references, for example during the time of Alexander the Great, but of course these reports are dismissed by modern historians as fictional (they don't have a choice, obviously, if they value their careers).
    Yes, there may well have been a number of Comodo dragon-like species that mankind met before the extinction of those. I consider that plausible.

    My question refers more to times (respective layers with petrified bones) from abt. 65 million years ago, where you can not find anything like man. Earliest human-like species due to remnants are estimated something like 8 million years back (roughly, give or take). Earliest life on the (dry) earth is estimated by the science as abt. 350 million years ago. Before you had life in the oceans only. There was the so called Cambrian explosion (a strong and somewhat rapid elevation in numbers of species) of life at abt. 500 million years ago.

    What is your personal take on that, do you consider it applicable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I am very split on it, I wish I could believe in creationism but I somehow fail.

    May god erease the skepticism in me
    What seems to be the problem, bruder? Catholic Church is fine with evolution, as it doesn't contradict the Bible. Genesis is largely poetry and should be taken as such. No need for being bothered about evolution, it poses no challenge for faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    What seems to be the problem, bruder? Catholic Church is fine with evolution, as it doesn't contradict the Bible. Genesis is largely poetry and should be taken as such. No need for being bothered about evolution, it poses no challenge for faith.
    Doesn't bible say earth is 6k years old? 6k years are not enough for evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Doesn't bible say earth is 6k years old? 6k years are not enough for evolution.
    No it doesn't, in any verse. If you refer to the genealogy stuff, that may well be some sort of poetry aswell. History as a science didn't work quite the same way back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Yes, there may well have been a number of Comodo dragon-like species that mankind met before the extinction of those. I consider that plausible.

    My question refers more to times (respective layers with petrified bones) from abt. 65 million years ago, where you can not find anything like man. Earliest human-like species due to remnants are estimated something like 8 million years back (roughly, give or take). Earliest life on the (dry) earth is estimated by the science as abt. 350 million years ago. Before you had life in the oceans only. There was the so called Cambrian explosion (a strong and somewhat rapid elevation in numbers of species) of life at abt. 500 million years ago.

    What is your personal take on that, do you consider it applicable?
    I believe those ages have been grossly miscalculated. You can find a lot of information about that on the Answers in Genesis YouTube channel. For example, they look at the evidence of how the Grand Canyon formed, and how the layers of sediment were made, and why certain fossils were found on particular layers. It is all very fascinating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    What seems to be the problem, bruder? Catholic Church is fine with evolution, as it doesn't contradict the Bible. Genesis is largely poetry and should be taken as such. No need for being bothered about evolution, it poses no challenge for faith.
    The Catholic church is fine with many things that they shouldn't be as Christians...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Catholic church is fine with many things that they shouldn't be as Christians...
    I'm aware that creationists say scientists lie or they're paid to lie about history/god/evolution/creationism etc but the problem with this theory is that too many people need to be involved in this kind of stuff (thousands, but probably more like tens of thousands of people). Sooner or later someone would admit that he was paid to lie or something if this world wide conspiracy (that involve multiple branches of science) was true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Catholic church is fine with many things that they shouldn't be as Christians...
    Catholics believe every fundamental thing about God that protestants do. They are not perfect, but no church is. Some protestants describe the Catholic church as a cult. I can tell you, that can't be further from truth. And I'm not even a Catholic anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    What seems to be the problem, bruder? Catholic Church is fine with evolution, as it doesn't contradict the Bible. Genesis is largely poetry and should be taken as such. No need for being bothered about evolution, it poses no challenge for faith.
    Sedevancists have a different view

    I do not think scientists are gods but I dont want to elaborate on that. Its easy for people to blindly trust scientists and make fun of us for trusting in our transedence cautiousness.

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    From my observations there are 2 young earth creationists (unban rethel) and 3 more I suspect might be on this website.


    Something had to create Earth, humans and space. A force, other higher beings, gods, or big bang.
    Floods were significantly large, local, and not necessary global. History talks about it in Western Asia/Middle East (various old texts and religions).
    Maybe some ancients were wiped out by these floods.

    Or something funny:

    Maybe ancient Hebrews saw themselves as chosen humans, the rest of goyim as as cattle and said "we are 6,000 year old" this is the start of humanity. Semitic language originates to 3800bc (well from one source anyway).

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