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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    So you think that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time like in The Flintstones? I do refer to one of your previous replies in this thread where do you refer to dinosaurs calling them 'dragons'.
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    Yes. I believe we were created and for a purpose. Science can only prove so much, the rest is meant to be out of our comprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Yes. I believe we were created and for a purpose. Science can only prove so much, the rest is meant to be out of our comprehension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    I think multiple universes exist and this is also a popular view among many scientists. Ours have begun when some other universes clashed. It is a neverending cycle of beginnings and endings.
    Yes, that would be one possibility.

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    People used to explain most of unexplainable to them things with Gods / some actions of divine beings. According to the ancient Greeks, it was Zeus who threw lightnings, being responsible for the thunderstorm phenomenon.
    Exactly this demonstrates to us that there are loads of things that could not be understood 1000 or 2000 years ago like lightnings, electricity, magnetism, gravitation, tides, meteorites etc. and that it was simply wrong to assume any supernatural things (like a god) for explaining these phenomenons. If we consider this experience from the last 2000 years I see no problem in accepting that there are also today some things that we can not yet fully know and explain. The growth of our knowledge is an ongoing process. Every month we have new findings in genetics.

    Conclusion: Even if one would be open to supernatural things our partial lack of knowledge alone would not yet be a sufficient motivation to assume something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    Yes, that would be one possibility.



    Exactly this demonstrates to us that there are loads of things that could not be understood 1000 or 2000 years ago like lightnings, electricity, magnetism, gravitation, tides, meteorites etc. and that it was simply wrong to assume any supernatural things (like a god) for explaining these phenomenons. If we consider this experience from the last 2000 years I see no problem in accepting that there are also today some things that we can not yet fully know and explain. The growth of our knowledge is an ongoing process. Every month we have new findings in genetics.

    Conclusion: Even if one would be open to supernatural things our partial lack of knowledge alone would not yet be a sufficient motivation to assume something like that.
    Wait..

    Aristotle and then Avicenna Averroe and Thomas D'aquinas never said something about the "relation" BETWEEN the lightnings, electricity, magnetism, gravitation, tides, meteorites with GOD..

    None of them said that these "supernatural things" were the proof of God existence..( and they never said that these things were supernatural )

    Maybe the ASATRU followers think that ancient Vikings believed that lightnings were the proof of God existence.. ( The truth is the fact that nobody knows exactly what was their religion... there are very very few "bites" of information about ancient north-east europe religion... most of the people living in the north-east europe believed in the spirits of the nature.. the spirit of the tree.. the river... the thunder...lightinings..)

    Please.. try to read some Aristotle metaphysic..

    The books of Aristotle and Thomas were the most read and the most important books ( Bible and Euclid not included ) for hundreds of years ..

    These two have shaped the minds of all the greatest Europeans up to 1800 ..

    All the greatest scientisti and mathematicians ( many of them were priest catholic or protestant ) up to the 18th century have well studied Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas ..

    Most of Newton writtings ( 95%) regard Bible and religion and God ( he agreed with Thomas D'Aquinas 100% )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Yes.
    You really believe that?
    That the earth is billions of years old is a fact, as is evolutionary biology. It is proofen. Not a belief like religion.
    And also belief in God and evolution do not have to contradict each other necessary.
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