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    Deputy Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski says stationing US nukes in eastern Europe would “make sense”



    Jaroslaw Kaczynski, Poland’s Deputy Prime Minister, has spoken in favor of US nuclear weapons being deployed in eastern Europe, citing Russia’s military offensive against Ukraine.

    In an interview with Germany’s Die Welt news outlet published on Sunday, Kaczynski said that “fundamentally, it makes sense to expand nuclear sharing to the eastern flank,” apparently referring to a NATO concept by which “the benefits, responsibilities and risks of nuclear deterrence are shared across the Alliance.” The Polish official noted, however, that such an initiative should come from the US.

    On top of that, Kaczynski called on the military bloc to set up a new command center in Poland, akin to the one in the Dutch town of Brunssum, “from where joint NATO deployments will be planned and conducted.” According to the deputy, that would send a clear signal to Russia that the military alliance is now present in Eastern Europe at command level as well.

    In addition to the adoption of the NATO concept, Warsaw “would welcome it if the Americans in the future increased their presence in Europe from the current 100,000 soldiers to 150,000,” Kaczynski in this instance citing “Russia’s growing aggressiveness” as the main threat. The Polish official proceeded to break down the numbers, explaining that “75,000 troops should be permanently stationed on the eastern flank, that is, on the border with Russia.” He also told Die Welt that Warsaw would want to see 50,000 US service personnel in the Baltic states and Poland alone.

    Kaczynski’s calls for Washington to beef up its military contingent on the European continent comes despite NATO having already agreed to deploy additional battle groups to Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia.

    Part of the deputy premier’s interview was devoted to criticism of Germany over its refusal to impose an embargo on Russian oil, and to the extent of support it is providing to Ukraine. He told journalists that he was “very unhappy about the German government’s behavior,” adding that Berlin “could deliver more weapons,” as well as “speak out in the EU in favor of an oil embargo.” Kaczynski also opined that Russian oil could be replaced with relative ease, acknowledging at the same time that finding a viable substitute for Moscow’s natural gas was far more problematic.

    “You cannot continuously support a great power like Russia with billions out of energy sales,” the 72-year-old official insisted, describing the current state of affairs as “unacceptable from a political and moral point of view.” According to Poland’s deputy prime minister, “Germany ought to finally take an unequivocal stance on this.”

    Kaczynski accused the German federal government of turning a blind eye for years to “what Russia under Putin is doing.” He concluded that “it has panned out badly, as we now see,” adding that it was not at all “difficult to foresee” where the situation was heading.

    Since the start of Russia’s military campaign against Ukraine on February 24, the European Union has slapped Moscow with unprecedented economic sanctions, targeting numerous government and private entities, individual business people and entire industries. Yet, Poland, the Baltic states and Ukraine are calling on Brussels to go even further and ditch Russian hydrocarbons altogether, which are currently exempt from the bloc’s sanctions. However, Germany – Europe’s major industrial powerhouse – has so far opposed the total phasing out of Russian gas over concerns that it could wreak havoc on the German economy, with 34% of the gas consumed in the country last year coming from Russia.

    Berlin has made it clear that it will be gradually weaning itself off Russian energy, looking for alternative sources though adding, however, that such a transition cannot happen overnight.

    In late March, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki vowed to stop importing Russian gas, oil and coal by the end of the year, with Lithuania, too, announcing on Saturday that it has ceased buying Russian gas “from this month on.”
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    I don't understand the mindset of these people. I really think there's some serious psychological deficits in the reasoning ability of some Eastern politicians especially.
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    What do you expect, the Russians openly threatened to nuke Warsaw.

    Welcome to the club Poland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't understand the mindset of these people. I really think there's some serious psychological deficits in the reasoning ability of some Eastern politicians especially.
    As of now the nukes are in Germany, moving (some of) them to Poland wouldn't make a huge difference.
    The reasoning behind that is indeed very complex and hard to understand: He doesn't want his cities to be flattened by Russian BM21 rockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    As of now the nukes are in Germany, moving (some of) them to Poland wouldn't make a huge difference.
    The reasoning behind that is indeed very complex and hard to understand: He doesn't want his cities to be flattened by Russian BM21 rockets.
    And Germans protest this nuclear share for over 40 years, Poles are so cucked they voluntairly beg for becoming a vassal and target for nuclear missles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noricum View Post
    As of now the nukes are in Germany, moving (some of) them to Poland wouldn't make a huge difference.
    The reasoning behind that is indeed very complex and hard to understand: He doesn't want his cities to be flattened by Russian BM21 rockets.
    Well, it would make Poland the first target instead of Germany. How is that smart on their behalf? How does being a first target for a nuclear strike make you any safer? Please explain to me this logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    And Germans protest this nuclear share for over 40 years, Poles are so cucked they voluntairly beg for becoming a vassal and target for nuclear missles.
    everybody is a target anyways, might as well host them

    You are delusional if you think Russia wouldn't nuke Germany if it got rid of the US nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    What do you expect, the Russians openly threatened to nuke Warsaw.

    Welcome to the club Poland
    Now they won't just threaten, they'll actually definitely do it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    everybody is a target anyways, might as well host them
    That's not true, it's an obvious lie and a very weak argument that is such a great generalisation, and cannot be proven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    everybody is a target anyways, might as well host them

    You are delusional if you think Russia wouldn't nuke Germany if it got rid of the US nukes.
    How stupid are you?

    WE OPPOSE THE NUCLEAR SHARE AS IT MAKES US A POSSIBLE TARGET

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