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    Russia denies Ukraine war-crimes allegations

    Moscow claims accusations of Bucha massacre by Russian forces are fake news




    The Russian military has firmly denied accusations of mass killings of civilians in Bucha, a Ukrainian town northwest of Kiev. The claims have been raised by Ukraine itself, some Western media outlets and human rights groups, after Moscow had withdrawn its troops from the outskirts of Ukraine’s capital.

    “All photographs and video materials published by the Kiev regime, allegedly showing some kind of "crimes" by Russian military personnel in the town of Bucha, Kiev region, are yet another provocation,” the Russian Ministry of Defense said Sunday.

    Russian troops had been pulled out from the area on March 30, the military said, pointing out that “the so-called ‘evidence of crimes’ in Bucha appeared only on the fourth day” after the withdrawal, when Ukrainian intelligence and “representatives of Ukrainian television arrived in the town.”

    “Moreover, on March 31 the mayor of Bucha, Anatoly Fedoruk, confirmed in his video address that there was no Russian military in the town, but did not even mention any local residents laying shot in the streets with their hands tied,” the Russian military also pointed out.

    "It’s particularity concerning that all the bodies of people whose images were published by the Kiev regime, after at least four days, have not stiffened, do not have characteristic cadaveric spots, and have fresh blood in their wounds,” the military noted, adding that all these inconsistencies show that the whole Bucha affair “has been staged by the Kiev regime for Western media, as was the case with the [fake news from the] Mariupol maternity clinic.”

    Graphic footage from Bucha shows multiple bodies in civilian clothing lying in the middle of a street. Some of the dead apparently had their hands tied, while others were white armbands, commonly used by Russian forces and civilians in areas under Russian control.

    Kiev has blamed the Bucha killings on Moscow, with Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba claiming it was a "deliberate massacre" by Russian troops.

    “The Bucha massacre was deliberate. Russians aim to eliminate as many Ukrainians as they can. We must stop them and kick them out. I demand new, devastating G7 sanctions NOW,” Kuleba wrote on Twitter.

    Top Western politicians have backed Kiev’s assessment of Bucha, with some explicitly pinning the blame for the killings on Moscow as well. “Russian authorities will have to answer for these crimes,” French President Emmanuel Macron said.

    A similar stance was voiced by the UK, with Foreign Secretary Liz Truss stating that such “indiscriminate attacks” on civilians should be probed as war crimes. “We will not allow Russia to cover up their involvement in these atrocities through cynical disinformation,” she said.
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    Of course we deny it.

    Nothing coming out of Ukraine right now is reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Of course we deny it.

    Nothing coming out of Ukraine right now is reliable.
    I don't believe anything coming from the Zelensky regime. They've been caught out lying too many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I don't believe anything coming from the Zelensky regime. They've been caught out lying too many times.
    it is a satanic regime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Of course we deny it.

    Nothing coming out of Ukraine right now is reliable.

    exactly

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    One of the most bitter reality of this war is neither Ukraine nor Russia exude any bit of justifiability in their military ambitions in this war. For humanitarian concerns as priority, Ukraine should agree to cede Donbass and Lugansk. I do not understand the stubbornness in this souvereignty which has never really existed, like most former USSR members, they are loosely constitutional entities created by the internationalist orders like either Sovietism or western colonial coalitions. Colonial and former communistic countries should not be considered as proper souvereign entities to clear up the illusion, these countries never know where is the real boundary of their true souvereignties and heritages, therefore they can become vulnerable tools for manipulation. Sometimes you need to surrender for greater good just like converted jews into christians. The West as the demon power being invited and protected by ukrainian condonement, Ukraine is the new Israel of Solomon, but no as wise as Solomon, which traded his own soul with pandemonium, how can Ukraine end better than Solomon`s kingdom? the West is just a proxy of the pandemonium, Ukraine is only dealing with a proxy, which will demand their interest rate for their brokery, nothing will be left of them if the trade continues. For a demonic possession like Ukraine, either an army desperate in retreat, any of them can be suspected, as onlookers the rest of the world will be cursed and damned. Like we have been for Iraqi wars, Syrian wars, 2 WWs, everything is on a downward turn untill true communism will rule the world.
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    I don't buy it. It looks staged.
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    Ukraine, being fooled around by the west, so pathetic. While most of the western countries do not approve cultivation of GMO, Ukraine is forced to be a colony of it, this is the reality. The true criminals are those oligarchs, like those Putin tries so hard to eliminate, they are like vagabonds armed with the best weapons. But I do not think Russia was that stupid that never expected such level of resistence with western advanced weaponry, do you seriously believe that the west will support you untill the end???????????? I have said that both the west and Russia are collaborating on your cost alone Ukraine, however hard to believe.

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    Powerful Western corporations want to make Ukraine the largest GMO (genetically modified organisms) grower. As time goes by, genetically modified organisms can become a poison to take away many human lives. This fact is ignored. Europe does not need GMO (the production is strictly limited there). Ukraine could very well become a test ground for GMO crops in Europe, something the rest of the European Union has been looking to prevent. Monsanto, an American multinational agromultinational and agricultural biotechnology corporation, is now moving in on Ukraine with plans to institute GMOs nationwide.

    More than 40 years ago, Agent Orange was one of 15 herbicides used by the U.S. military as a defoliant in the Vietnam War. The former Monsanto Company was one of nine wartime government contractors who manufactured it to eliminate vegetation (many believe the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam was paramount to committing a military crime. It gives rise to cancer and destroys human immune system).

    Monsanto says soybeans production will bring in over $1 billion to increase the corporation’s profits twofold in five years. Monsanto is powerful enough to influence the US government. For instance, in 2013 US President Barack Obama signed into law the controversial HR 933 (the «Monsanto Protection Act»), which contains a provision that grossly protects biotech corporations such as the Missouri-based Monsanto Company from litigation. With the president’s signature, agriculture giants that deal with genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and genetically engineered (GE) seeds were given the go-ahead to continue to plant and sell man-made crops, even as questions remain largely unanswered about the health risks these types of products pose to consumers.

    Genetically modified organisms have so far been banned by law in Ukraine, but the EU association agreement signed by the new Ukrainian government calls for closer cooperation in biotechnology.

    In Walking on the West Side: the World Bank and the IMF in the Ukraine Conflict, a report released in July 2014, the Oakland Institute exposed how international financial institutions swooped in on the heels of the political upheaval in Ukraine to deregulate and throw open the nation’s vast agricultural sector to foreign corporations, including genetically modified organisms and cultures. Jesus Madrazo, the Vice President of Monsanto, has said «Ukraine has the opportunity to further develop the potential of conventional crops, which is where we are currently concentrating our efforts. We also hope that at some point biotechnology is a tool that will be available to Ukrainian farmers in the future». The Ukrainian government and Monsanto do their best to make it materialize as soon as possible.

    U.S. corporation Monsanto plans to build a seed plant in Ukraine in 2016. This was discussed at the meeting in Washington between Minister of Agriculture and Food of Ukraine Oleksiy Pavlenko with the representatives of Monsanto. The plant will manufacture corn seed of conventional selection for the domestic market and export. At the same time Monsanto Ukraine is launching a social development program titled «Grain Basket of the Future». It has been formally announced that the project will help rural villagers in the country improve their quality of life.

    Monsanto says it is looking for places to build corn seed plants in the so called corn belt of Ukraine. The region of Vinnitsa (Vinnytsia) is on the priority list. Valeriy Khadzhymatov, the chief executive of the Seed Association of Ukraine, says Monsanto accounts for around 20% of Ukraine’s corn seed production. With a factory launched in 2015 its share will grow by 10%.

    Robert Hunter Biden, the son of US Vice President Joe Biden, is currently Chairman of the Board of the World Food Program USA (launched in support of the United Nations World Food Program – WFP). His appointment in 2014 to the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings has attracted controversy. He is the one to provide political support for Monsanto activities. Monsanto is a corporation with teeth – it has signed a contract with Academi, the largest private military contractor (it had been called Blackwater till February 2009, and then it changed its name for Xe Services LLC to be renamed into Academi in January 2010). According to unconfirmed information, Monsanto has purchased Academi.

    The corporation also has its spin doctors in Ukraine – the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council (USUBC). Morgan Williams, president and CEO of the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council, says genetically modified seeds should be legalized in Ukraine to boost agricultural production. The U.S.-Ukraine Business Council’s 16-member Executive Committee is packed with U.S. agribusiness companies, including representatives from Monsanto, John Deere, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly, and Cargill.

    * * *

    The Food Safety & Sustainable Agriculture Forum 2014 held in China’s capital on July 25-26 included genetic researchers, university professors, medical doctors, veterinarians, livestock farmers, arable farmers, agricultural consultants, mothers, NGO founders and leaders and social activists from China, Taiwan, the U.S.A, Russia, U.K., France, Denmark, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Brazil and Peru. Irina Ermakova, VP of Russia’s National Association for Genetic Safety, tells the forum was introduced to dire information on

    genetic deformity and sterility of animals, the pathology of internal organs and reproduction disorders among pigs, autism and imbecility among children – all caused by the use of genetically modified organisms. All this plethora of information about negative effects of GMO is of no importance to Ukrainian government. The regime gradually and irreversibly converts the country into a reservation of Monsanto.

    In early May Ukrainian media was reported with delight that Monsanto Ukraine (the branch off Californian giant) offers its new product – selective herbicide Guardian Tetra.

    The process of GMO-colonization of Ukraine is at full speed…

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    I do not deny the possibility of a massacre taking place in a war and every side of a conflict is capable of doing so.

    But how fast media and western leaders draw conclusion is something that should make every sane person skeptic.

    Sadly I gotta say this, because you cant voice concern over one thing without getting confroted by the other.

    The accusation of Russia towards what happend to the people in Donbass by Ukraine also make me skeptic as hell.

    In this day and age I dont believe in any possible way to investigate war crimes on a neutral scale.

    But same can be said about ww2, everything that was done to my people was not a war crime or genocide, but every action of Germans was suddenly a massacre.

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