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    2002

    Total number
    509,083

    %
    25.17

    2021

    Total number
    446,245

    %
    24.30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    2002
    Total number
    509,083

    %
    25.17

    2021

    Total number
    446,245

    %
    24.30
    Not true. Their number didnt increase, didnt decrease as well, but their percentage actually increased. 20% of the whole pop in 2002, and 1/2 or 33% in ratio with orthodox Macedonci, so their percentage actually increased. Thats also because the Macedonci themselvs numerically decreased(the actuall number of citizens was 200 thousands less) ........

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    Soon Shqiptar-Albs will be a billion.

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    Albanians in Macedonia carry out assimilation policies toward Turks, which is something Macedonians don't. Ohrid Framework Agreement was a mistake because it provided many rights for Albanians whilst ignoring the rest (Turks, Roma, Torbeshi...) The Democracy attempt by Macedonians was something revolutionary for the Balkans and should be appreciated. But now Albanians, who have got specific power in their hands, lack the same reflex. The purpose of OFA was to protect the status quo in terms of ethnicities in the region, but it didn't due to the Albanian rural population. Macedonians now try to ally with Turks and integrate them into the society, but it is kinda too late when a 15% population decreased to 3% due to the migrations to Turkey. The same was seen in Bulgaria, they literally kicked Turks out and are now in the position to beg them to come back, because their population is disappearing.

    When thinking about how they increased their % in the last dozens of years, in the following years seeing an Albanian majority in North Macedonia would not be surprising.
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    This is result of census 1931 on territory of modern North Macedonia, when it was part of Kingdom of Yugoslavia.

    Categories are described as how they were in that census.



    Total population: 949,958

    By religion

    Orthodox: 648,989 (68.32%)
    Muslim: 282,820 (29.77%)
    Catholic: 8,486 (0.89%)
    Protestant: 320 (0.03%)
    other: 9,343 (0.98%)


    By language

    "Serbian/Croatian/Macedonian/Slovenian": 680,443 (71.64%)
    category other languages (mainly Turkish): 135,280 (14.24%)
    Albanian: 129,645 (13.65%)
    other Slavic: 2,250 (0.24%)
    Hungarian: 1448 (0.15%)
    German: 892 (0.08%)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Albanians in Macedonia carry out assimilation policies toward Turks, which is something Macedonians don't. Ohrid Framework Agreement was a mistake because it provided many rights for Albanians whilst ignoring the rest (Turks, Roma, Torbeshi...) The Democracy attempt by Macedonians was something revolutionary for the Balkans and should be appreciated. But now Albanians, who have got specific power in their hands, lack the same reflex. The purpose of OFA was to protect the status quo in terms of ethnicities in the region, but it didn't due to the Albanian rural population. Macedonians now try to ally with Turks and integrate them into the society, but it is kinda too late when a 15% population decreased to 3% due to the migrations to Turkey. The same was seen in Bulgaria, they literally kicked Turks out and are now in the position to beg them to come back, because their population is disappearing.

    When thinking about how they increased their % in the last dozens of years, in the following years seeing an Albanian majority in North Macedonia would not be surprising.
    Never heard of any assimilation policies towards Turks but I've heard the Slavs there used assimilation policies on Albanians. The number of Albanians there was also larger before 1937 but the Serbs carried out policies of murder and expulsion on the populations there.

    90,000 Serbian troops were deployed in Macedonia to keep down resistance from Serbianization, Serbian colonists were unsuccessfully encouraged to immigrate with the slogan "for the good of Serbs", but the Albanians and Turks to emigrate.[48] In the next centuries, a sense of a distinct Macedonian nation emerged partly as a result of the resistance of IMRO, despite it was split into one Macedonist and one pro-Bulgarian wing.[48] In 1918 the use of Bulgarian and Macedonian language was prohibited in Serbian Macedonia.[48]

    The Bulgarian, Greek and Romanian schools were closed, the Bulgarian priests and all non-Serbian teachers were expelled. Bulgarian surname endings '-ov/-ev' were replaced with the typically Serbian ending '-ich' and the population which considered itself Bulgarian was

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    There were only 129,645 Albanians in North Macedonia in census 1931, and only 355,517 in Serbia.

    Their number exploded under Titos communist regime in both Serbia and North Macedonia.
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    There were more before the Balkan wars before Serbian occupation and colonization or there would of been more , at least today. Skopje had an Albanian majority or large Albanian population, Bitola, Manastir had large Albanian population.

    Their numbers exploded during Tito because they werent being expelled by Serbs anymore.
    They were deported to Turkey and declared as Turks

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    North Macedonia is currently just little over 50% Macedonian and Orthodox.
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