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    The United States and Ukraine Started the War—Not Russia
    By Richard Ochs - April 9, 2022 5

    For eight years, Ukraine terrorized the people of Eastern Ukraine with U.S. weapons but this was never reported on.

    Here is a timeline of events:

    October 2002 – “Full Spectrum Dominance” declared by the Pentagon to rule the world.
    January 2014 – U.S. military trainers arrive in Ukraine. [1]
    February 2014 – Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown in a violent coup.
    March 2014 – Ukraine started the war and killed 10,000 Russian-speakers in Eastern Ukraine.
    February 2015 – Ceasefire agreements at Minsk were violated by Kyiv, continuing war.
    May 2019 – Volodymyr Zelensky was elected president of Ukraine after false peace promise.
    May 2019 – U.S. Rand Corp. think tank issued a manifesto to destroy Russia.[2]
    March 2021 – Russian troops appeared at the Ukrainian border.
    Feb. 17, 2022 – Ukraine attacked a kindergarten in Donetsk, blaming Donbass separatists.[3]
    Feb. 21, 2022 – Kyiv increased its shelling of Donbass by a factor of 100 within four days. [4]
    February 21, 2022 – Russia recognized independence of Donetsk and Luhansk.
    February 22, 2022 – Donetsk reported intelligence that Ukraine planned invasion of Donbass [5]



    The democratically elected government of Ukraine, overthrown by a U.S.-supported violent coup in 2014, was sparked by a massacre of protesters by a renegade Nazi brigade in the Ukraine Army, a cynical and deliberate false-flag tactic to anger the population. It worked as well as the German Nazi false flag Reichstag Fire that allowed Hitler to take over Germany.[6]

    A more recent false flag attack was the anthrax terror a month after 9/11/2001 which stampeded the U.S. into war for oil, costing 2 million lives and 10 million displaced. The anthrax from a U.S. Army lab was falsely blamed on an Islamic zealot.[7]

    In 2014, the Ukraine Army started shelling Donbass in the east, killing 10,000 civilians, which is 10 times more than the UN-reported 1,000 civilians that Russia allegedly killed in 24 days since their incursion into Ukraine, February 24 to March 20.


    Shelling of Donetsk from Ukraine. [Source: telesurenglish.net]

    Considering that the population of West Ukraine is 10 times that of the seccessionist-held Donbass, one can easily calculate that those killings by Ukraine were 20 times the percentage of population killed than those allegedly killed by Russia now.

    The map below shows the blue two-thirds of Donetsk and Luhansk was occupied by Kiev which was besieging people in the brown one-third to the east. The Russian rescue mission stopped Ukraine’s genocide of Donbass.



    In addition, 4,000 combatants were killed in the Donbass siege. Trainers and equipment from the U.S. were there since 2014 to help the Ukrainian Army.

    Not only has Kyiv started the war in Ukraine, but it also committed major war crimes like the shelling of a kindergarten in Donetsk, while trying to blame Russian for false flag attacks.

    Why? Because Kyiv knows NATO has their back and they want to remove Russian-speakers from Ukraine. They want to grab that valuable property in the east.

    It has been confirmed that 14,000 were killed Ukraine’s 2014 civil war, most of them Russian speakers in Donbass. Ukraine cleared minefields on February 23 around Donbass, preparing to invade. Russia blocked that with the incursion on February 24.


    Secretary of War Lloyd Austin told Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation on March 20, 2022 “Our trainers have been in Ukraine since 2014.” ↑

    The US capitalist think tank, Rand Corporation, declared US war on Russia with their 2019 manifesto on how to destroy Russia, which has not been repudiated by any US government entity nor reported by any US mass media.
    Rand Corporation: How to Destroy Russia. “Overextending and Unbalancing Russia” | Truth11.com ↑

    Ukraine attacked a kindergarten, blaming Donbass separatists.

    Report of the Organization for Security & Co-operation in Europe (OSCE)

    The Monitoring Mission’s report on the kindergarten incident:
    “On 17 February, the Mission followed up on reports of damage to a working kindergarten in the north-western part of Stanytsia Luhanska (government-controlled, 16km north-east of Luhansk), located about 4.5km north-west of the north-western edge of the disengagement area near Stanytsia Luhanska.”

    Comment by munitions expert:

    “So the kindergarten was 4.5 kilometers inside Ukrainian-held territory. The monitors were denied access to the site by Ukrainian authorities and were only able to see it from a distance (very suspicious). Also suspicious is that the mission was told that “20 children had been in the kindergarten at the time of the incident but reported no injuries”. Really? An artillery shell bursts through a classroom wall, and no one was injured? More likely, they had been warned to get out ahead of time and evacuated before the shell was fired.

    “But there is no doubt whatsoever about how far away the tank (or artillery piece) was. The impact was dead on, and not from a descending shell. And the surrounding buildings mean that whoever fired at the kindergarten was situated in that very small open space right next to it. And we know it was a dummy shell, because of the unbroken windows. If there had been an explosion, they would have been shattered. Someone took deliberate aim from only a few hundred yards away and carefully fired a single shot on a flat trajectory. They probably weren’t interested in causing “collateral damage”, but just wanted a propaganda photo. How convenient that the damage was to a kindergarten and not to one or another of the anonymous buildings surrounding it.” ↑

    The Organization for Security & Co-operation in Europe (OSCE)
    reports each day on the security situation with daily reports:

    https://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/reports

    Wednesday February 16: number of explosions: 5 in Donetsk and 71 in Luhansk=76

    Thursday February 17: Kindergarten hit by Ukraine’s false flag attack

    Thursday February 17: number of explosions: 128 in Donetsk and 188 in Luhansk

    =316
    Friday February 18: number of explosions: 135 in Donetsk and 519 in Luhansk

    =654
    Saturday February 19: number of explosions: 553 in Donetsk and 860 in Luhansk-1,413. ↑

    Ukraine Army’s Plan to Attack Donbass
    https://ugetube.com/watch/firefight-...8c68334c4999d6
    Published on 21 Feb 2022. “In recent days, the number and intensity of shelling on the territory of the Republics by the Ukrainian army has sharply increased. The units of the People’s Militia are forced to constantly suppress the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in order to prevent the death of the civilian population.”


    Watch the documentary “Ukraine on Fire” by Oliver Stone, producer of “JFK.” https://rumble.com/embed/vubrga. Dmitry Yarosh’s highly trained and disciplined paramilitaries had dressed during the coup as if they were state security troops, and they fired down upon the Maidan demonstrators and police, in what’s called in the trade a “false flag” attack—one that’s designed to appear to have been perpetrated by the side you’re intending to defeat, so as to deceive the public about who had caused the violence and thus get your enemy to be blamed (by your own electorate) for the bloodshed, and thereby unite your country to fear your chosen (typically foreign) enemy and so to be willing to invade them. Adolf Hitler had most prominently pioneered the false-flag technique, both in his burning of the Reichstag, and in his setting up the incident that became his excuse to invade Poland in 1939. Dmitriy Yarosh is a proven master of this craft.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-di...s-life/5773835

    www.freefromterror.net; Graham McQueen, The 2001 Anthrax Deception: the Case for a Domestic Conspiracy (Atlanta: Clarity Press, 2014). ↑

    https://covertactionmagazine.com/202...ar-not-russia/

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    language map =/= ethnic map.

    Many ethnic Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language.
    According to 2001 census, only 18% of Ukraine's population declared themselves Russian. Now that Crimea (majority ethnic Russian) was annexed, it's probably even less than 18%.

    Actual ethnic map of Ukraine can be found below.
    The key in English = "percentage of ethnic Ukrainians by region". Conclusion: even eastern Ukraine is majority Ukrainian by ethnicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    language map =/= ethnic map.

    Many ethnic Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language.
    According to 2001 census, only 18% of Ukraine's population declared themselves Russian. Now that Crimea (majority ethnic Russian) was annexed, it's probably even less than 18%.

    Actual ethnic map of Ukraine can be found below.
    The key in English = "percentage of ethnic Ukrainians by region". Conclusion: even eastern Ukraine is majority Ukrainian by ethnicity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    language map =/= ethnic map.

    Many ethnic Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language.
    According to 2001 census, only 18% of Ukraine's population declared themselves Russian. Now that Crimea (majority ethnic Russian) was annexed, it's probably even less than 18%.

    Actual ethnic map of Ukraine can be found below.
    The key in English = "percentage of ethnic Ukrainians by region". Conclusion: even eastern Ukraine is majority Ukrainian by ethnicity.
    If it's not about the traditionally spoken language, what exactly is an ethnic Ukrainian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    If it's not about the traditionally spoken language, what exactly is an ethnic Ukrainian?
    Ethnic Ukrainian= people who identify as Ukrainian. Many Russian speaking people in Ukraine declare themselves ethnic Ukrainian on the census (instead of ethnic Russian). In Belarus majority of the population speaks Russian instead of Belarusian as their native language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    In Belarus majority of the population speaks Russian instead of Belarusian as their native language.

    In Belarus nobody speaks Belarusian outside remote villages.

    If you do, you get weird stares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Ethnic Ukrainian= people who identify as Ukrainian. Many Russian speaking people in Ukraine declare themselves ethnic Ukrainian on the census (instead of ethnic Russian). In Belarus majority of the population speaks Russian instead of Belarusian as their native language.
    So if i identify myself japanese then i will be ethnic japanese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    So if i identify myself japanese then i will be ethnic japanese?
    People who reported that they were Ukrainian on the 2001 census, did so because they were ethnically Ukrainian. Are you saying they did not tell the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Many Russian speaking people in Ukraine declare themselves ethnic Ukrainian on the census (instead of ethnic Russian). In Belarus majority of the population speaks Russian instead of Belarusian as their native language.
    So you consider being an ethnic Ukrainian is just about what they declare in a census without any required factual grounds?

    Also, in such a case there is maybe not even a mutual exclusiveness between "Ukrainain" and "Russian" as Ukrainans can well be considered a subgroup of Russians. Like if you in East Anglia would ask in a census if people regard themselves East Anglians or Englishmen.
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