Germany: Chronology of decline

[Teutone]

[rothaer]

I'm not entirely sure this is the case, elsewise Der Untergang des Abendlandes wouldn't have been considered as the pre-eminent work of kulturpessimismus.

You got a point there. My imagination of the book containing some imperatives is based on quotes like this (translated from the German Wikipedia article):

"Future perspectives

In his book, Spengler cautiously mentions the obvious future questions concerning the problems he addresses. In order to be able to hold its own against the emerging Russia, at least in a transitional period, the Occident would need a time of Caesarism, which would be characterised by technocracy, imperialism and socialism. He only mentions in passing the October Revolution, which had already occurred by the time he finished the book. He foresaw a second world war.[16]"

But I admit to not have read the book.

Existence in our universe is predicated on life springing out of death; if the moribund entity that is the BRD were to kick the bucket, something new would rise from its ashes. Matter after all, cannot be created nor destroyed, it merely changes shape. Whatever that new shape happens to be, it factually cannot be worse than the BRD.

I fully agree to that the BRD should be put to an end. The sooner the better. But Teutone spoke about the German people. To this there is no alternative. If the German people cease to exist, we will cease to exist. Because this is our form of existence, this is how we live (theoretically for an indifinite period of time). There is nothing else.

Constructive or not, there is something stoic and masculine about staring death into its eyes and acknowledging one's own demise.

It's masculine to do it in silence and not hinder these who are willing to fight. But it's pussylike to cry and make a big topic out of it without calling for any action. What would you think about an Ukrainian fighter in Mariupol that would talk to all the others and say?: Oh, we will lose, oh, we will lose, oh, there is no hope, oh, we will all die! I see nothing masculine in that.
Masculine would be this: We will die, guys, but we will sell our lives as expensive as possible! Let's show them what a real fighter is! And maybe, maybe, we will achieve something!

It is miles better than sedating yourself with degenerate video-media and American-style "Toleranzkultur" while everything burns around you.

Nobody suggested such an alternative.

We'll have to fight for survival and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, give up. And we should not get discouraged, even if we should consider having just a small chance of success. Only mental pussies need good odds for fighting, mental men can fight against bad odds as well.

[Not a Cop]

I fully agree to that the BRD should be put to an end. The sooner the better. But Teutone spoke about the German people. To this there is no alternative. If the German people cease to exist, we will cease to exist. Because this is our form of existence, this is how we live (theoretically for an indifinite period of time). There is nothing else.

If German people will cede to exist it will just became something else, just like nobody now remembers from which tribe they come from.

[rothaer]

If German people will cede to exist it will just became something else, just like nobody now remembers from which tribe they come from.

Exactly. With the remark, that "just" is a relative thing and if you are concerned it's even the biggest thing that there can be in the world.

Example: Someone kills you. So what? Then just you are dead. Like other people before you that nobody remembers. But to you this maybe matters very much.

And the same is with the German people to me. Simple as that.

[Not a Cop]

Exactly. With the remark, that "just" is a relative thing and if you are concerned it's even the biggest thing that there can be in the world.

Example: Someone kills you. So what? Then just you are dead. Like other people before you that nobody remembers. But to you this maybe matters very much.

And the same is with the German people to me. Simple as that.

Doesn't seem like a fair comparisson to me, dying out in a physical sense and dying out in metaphysical sense is different things.

What are your concerns if let's sat Germans will start identifying as simply Europeans in next hundred years in some centralised EU state? Not that i really think that it's a realistic scenario.

[Blondie]

Doesn't seem like a fair comparisson to me, dying out in a physical sense and dying out in metaphysical sense is different things.

What are your concerns if let's sat Germans will start identifying as simply Europeans in next hundred years in some centralised EU state? Not that i really think that it's a realistic scenario.

The problem with that is Europe is based on national identity, we dont wannabe USA 2.0.

[Teutone]

Again, your analogies are just wrong as hell.
You are a guy in a burning house telling the residents its all fine or the firefighters know what they do.

Pretend something that isnt based on reality is the most ungerman thing you can do.

The house is burning and its nothing wrong about telling whats going on, the fear about telling whats going on is a anti-German and eastern European mentallity.

We got great by being honest, unapologetic and hurting when describing a problem.

[Blondie]

Again, your analogies are just wrong as hell.
You are a guy in a burning house telling the residents its all fine or the firefighters know what they do.

Pretend something that isnt based on reality is the most ungerman thing you can do.

The house is burning and its nothing wrong about telling whats going on, the fear about telling whats going on is a anti-German and eastern European mentallity.

We got great by being honest, unapologetic and hurting when describing a problem.

Rothaer is 100% right in this question. Btw the german population is constantly rising in Hungary.

[Teutone]

Rothaer is 100% right in this question. Btw the german population is constantly rising in Hungary.

You are not living in Germany, diaspora always has a irrelevant and artifical image of their homeland.

Enough case studies on TA alone.

[Blondie]

You are not living in Germany, diaspora always has a irrelevant and artifical image of their homeland.

Enough case studies on TA alone.

Indeed Germany is in very serious danger, but you should not give up.