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    Wouldn't on average Filipinos today be 20-30% Spanish? I've seen some half Mexican and Filipinos mixes and most tend to be on the range. Also out of all Asians In California , Filipinos are the ones the most mix with mexicans..



    The Philippines was part of Mexico even after Independence for a quiet short time but Mexicans never had any Interest.


    The Philippines WAS Mexico before the American Intervation.

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    The Philippines were Spaniards until 1898. I dont think they ever belonged to Mexico as a country (although they were administered from there when Mexico was spanish). I may be wrong, but it would be strange that they belong to Mexico and then return to the Spanish hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ard 2.0 View Post
    The Philippines were Spaniards until 1898. I dont think they ever belonged to Mexico as a country (although they were administered from there when Mexico was spanish). Although I may be wrong
    Maybe, but from what I was thought after the Mexican Independence all territories that belonged to Spain were passed down to Mexico like the American Southwest and Overseas territories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasien View Post
    Maybe, but from what I was thought after the Mexican Independence all territories that belonged to Spain were passed down to Mexico like the American Southwest and Overseas territories
    Alot of Mexican influence in the Philipines.

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    I think so
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    The Filipinos have relative Mexican influence, since many Mexican Amerindians participated in their conquest, leaving a certain influence, in addition to the trade that both countries had during the Colony.

    Their language, Tagalog, contains words of Nahuatl origin, and I am not referring to global Nahuatl words such as chocolate, avocado, chili, tomato or coyote, but rather their repertoire is more extensive: for example they say tatay and nanay to refer to dad and mom: clear influence of Nahuatl.

    Filipinos eat corn tamales. And people from Guerrero have South Asian genetic markers precisely due to the Manila-Acapulco trade. There is also a small cult of the Virgin of Guadalupe in the Philippines.

    The Philippines is the closest Asian country to Mexico. I wish more commercial exchange and cultural and tourist interest between the two countries would be promoted.
    In Ancient Mexico, Mesoamerica/Anawak, a philosophical, scientific and spiritual proposal was developed aiming to explain who we are, how we came to exist and what is our purpose in life. Its name in nawatl is Toltekayotl, "Toltequity"; translated as "the art of living".

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    El Galeón de Manila, también llamado Nao de China o Galeón de Acapulco, era el nombre con el que se conoce a una serie de naves que cruzaban el océano Pacífico una o dos veces por ańo entre Manila (Filipinas) y los puertos de Nueva Espańa en América, principalmente Acapulco, Bahía de Banderas (Nayarit), San Blas (Nayarit) y el Cabo San Lucas (Baja California Sur). El nombre del galeón variaba según la ciudad de destino.1​

    El servicio fue inaugurado en 1565 por el marinero y fraile espańol Andrés de Urdaneta, tras descubrir el tornaviaje o ruta de regreso a Nueva Espańa a través del océano Pacífico, gracias a la corriente de Kuroshio de dirección este. El sentido contrario de navegación, de América a Filipinas, ya era conocido desde los tiempos de Magallanes y Elcano en 1521. El trayecto entre Acapulco hasta las Filipinas, incluida la escala en Guam, solía durar unos tres meses. El tornaviaje entre Manila y Acapulco podía durar entre cuatro y cinco meses debido al rodeo que hacían los galeones hacia el norte, con el fin de seguir la citada corriente de Kuroshio.

    La línea Manila-Acapulco-Manila fue una de las rutas comerciales más largas de la historia, y funcionó regularmente durante dos siglos y medio, generando una importante ruta comercial transpacífico de enorme relevancia en el intercambio monetario, comercial y cultural entre Asia y América. Sin embargo, el derrotero exacto de estas rutas entre México y Filipinas se mantuvo en secreto para proteger los barcos espańoles de la competencia de otras potencias europeas, y de los piratas ingleses y neerlandeses. El último barco zarpó de Acapulco en 1815 cuando la guerra de Independencia de México interrumpió la ruta, que se intentó recuperar sin éxito durante el Primer Imperio Mexicano.
    More information about the Galeón de Manila. (Fundación Museo Naval)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasien View Post
    Wouldn't on average Filipinos today be 20-30% Spanish? I've seen some half Mexican and Filipinos mixes and most tend to be on the range. Also out of all Asians In California , Filipinos are the ones the most mix with mexicans..



    The Philippines was part of Mexico even after Independence for a quiet short time but Mexicans never had any Interest.


    The Philippines WAS Mexico before the American Intervation.
    They’re country would more or less be like Peru, mestizos are the whites, Indio-mestizos the mixed class and amerindians the oppressed indigenous.

    I feel like a lot of white Mexicans, Chileans and Peruvian are just Harnizos/Mestizos in contrast to countries like Cuba or Uruguay

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    The Philippines never belonged to Mexico, it was part of Spain, then it was taken over by the US, then by the Japanese empire, and then independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    The Philippines never belonged to Mexico, it was part of Spain, then it was taken over by the US, then by the Japanese empire, and then independent.
    What a load of none sense, the Philippines was like a common wealth of Mexico. But it was self controlled before the U.S got there .

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