Irish dna results old vs updated

[Atlantean Muller]

This is my mother's result who is from North Tipperary.

Distance to:Bridget
5.58399499Irish_Connacht
6.23613662Irish
6.39946091Welsh
6.50951611Irish_Munster
6.75787689Scottish_Orkney
6.88122809Irish_Ulster
7.35395812Scottish
7.42285659Irish_Leinster
8.33912465English_Lancashire
8.41910922English_Southwest
8.57488775English_Yorkshire
8.74177328English
8.78342758English_West-Midlands
8.89623516Icelandic
8.91106054English_East
8.92627022English_Northeast
9.01198646English_Southeast
9.32649988Danish_2
9.39962765Dutch
9.53181515German_Frisian
9.72248939French_Brittany
9.97463784English_East-Midlands
10.03345404Cornish
10.24628713German_Northwest
10.37398188German_Westphalia
10.62372816Dutch_Central
10.66489100Dutch_North
10.72404774Danish
10.73720634Dutch_South
10.86834394German_Lower_Saxony_North
10.88410768German_Lower_Saxony_South
11.14298883German_Hither_Pomerania
11.40537593German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
11.57387576Swedish_2
11.76045067German_Schleswig-Holstein
11.86265147Norwegian
11.91597247German_Bavaria_Lower/Middle_Franconia
12.65844777French_Normandy
13.21841140German
13.27609882French_Hauts-de-France
13.35825962German_Mecklenburg_West
13.55704614Flemish
13.89912587German_East_Prussia_Central
13.93748901German_West_Bohemia
14.01748194Belgian
14.30427558Belgian-2
14.78128547German_North_Moravia
15.06464404Swedish
15.17847818German_Rhineland-Palatinate
15.20765268German_Brandenburg_Northwest


Target: Bridget
Distance: 365.8061% / 3.65806143
33.6Irish_Ulster
28.2German_Frisian
23.2Irish_Connacht
5.0Darginian
3.8Norwegian_North
3.4Basque_Spanish
2.8Russian_Pinezhsky


Target: Bridget
Distance: 370.1094% / 3.70109380 | ADC: 0.25x RC
61.4Irish_Connacht
24.6German_Frisian
4.4Darginian
3.6Basque_Spanish
3.4Norwegian_North
2.6Russian_Pinezhsky

Target: Bridget
Distance: 398.9545% / 3.98954519 | ADC: 0.5x RC
73.6Irish_Connacht
15.2German_Frisian
6.8Norwegian_North
4.4Tabasaran

Personally I feel G25 is much better

Here’s my results

Distance to:Muller_scaled
0.01810863Irish
0.01910642Scottish
0.01969610Orcadian
0.02091137French_Brittany
0.02121505Welsh
0.02243944English
0.02293857Shetlandic
0.02308925English_Cornwall
0.02321309Dutch
0.02540303Norwegian
0.02683745Danish
0.02751519Icelandic
0.03036557Afrikaner
0.03118505BelgianA
0.03239375German
0.03321029BelgianB
0.03500977French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03616542German_Hamburg
0.03647217French_Nord
0.03706348French_Seine-Maritime
0.03717140BelgianC
0.03756204Swedish
0.03758212French_Paris
0.03823624German_Erlangen
0.04051419French_Alsace


At 3 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3833% / 0.01383255 | R3P
86.0Irish
12.2Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree


At 4 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369111 | R4P
71.0Irish
14.4Shetlandic
12.8Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree

Interesting it gives me both a southern and northern shift at the same time


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[Atlantean Muller]

OK, so you are a former user here, and I already have you as a reference in K13.

Btw where do I sit on the pca?


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[Grace O'Malley]

Personally I feel G25 is much better

Here’s my results

Distance to:Muller_scaled
0.01810863Irish
0.01910642Scottish
0.01969610Orcadian
0.02091137French_Brittany
0.02121505Welsh
0.02243944English
0.02293857Shetlandic
0.02308925English_Cornwall
0.02321309Dutch
0.02540303Norwegian
0.02683745Danish
0.02751519Icelandic
0.03036557Afrikaner
0.03118505BelgianA
0.03239375German
0.03321029BelgianB
0.03500977French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03616542German_Hamburg
0.03647217French_Nord
0.03706348French_Seine-Maritime
0.03717140BelgianC
0.03756204Swedish
0.03758212French_Paris
0.03823624German_Erlangen
0.04051419French_Alsace


At 3 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3833% / 0.01383255 | R3P
86.0Irish
12.2Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree


At 4 populations

Target: Muller_scaled
Distance: 1.3691% / 0.01369111 | R4P
71.0Irish
14.4Shetlandic
12.8Spanish_Soria
1.8Cree

Interesting it gives me both a southern and northern shift at the same time


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Still a more southern pull which I think Leinster has because of English input. Nothing wrong about that either.

This is my G25 result for comparison.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01848790 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02018258 Danish
0.02022725 Norwegian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02416060 Dutch
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.02919872 Swedish
0.03333011 German
0.03363452 German_Hamburg
0.03551185 BelgianA
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04000956 German_Erlangen
0.04111373 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04121539 BelgianB
0.04124589 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04598379 BelgianC
0.04754192 Austrian


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6880% / 0.01688037
54.8 Irish
40.0 Icelandic
2.4 Danish
1.8 Cossack_Kuban
0.6 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.4 Lak

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4 Irish
36.8 Icelandic
10.8 Danish

[Atlantean Muller]

Still a more southern pull which I think Leinster has because of English input. Nothing wrong about that either.

This is my G25 result for comparison.

Distance to:Grace_scaled
0.01848790Irish
0.01914452Icelandic
0.01963632Scottish
0.01980300Orcadian
0.02018258Danish
0.02022725Norwegian
0.02206228English
0.02219810Welsh
0.02416060Dutch
0.02454052English_Cornwall
0.02493577Shetlandic
0.02758167French_Brittany
0.02919872Swedish
0.03333011German
0.03363452German_Hamburg
0.03551185BelgianA
0.03777837Afrikaner
0.04000956German_Erlangen
0.04111373French_Seine-Maritime
0.04121539BelgianB
0.04124589French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645German_East
0.04383614French_Nord
0.04598379BelgianC
0.04754192Austrian


Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6880% / 0.01688037
54.8Irish
40.0Icelandic
2.4Danish
1.8Cossack_Kuban
0.6Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
0.4Lak

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6924% / 0.01692353 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.4Irish
36.8Icelandic
10.8Danish

Interesting results, I seem to be a tiny bit closer to the Irish average than yourself, seeing as you’ve so much northern pull perhaps you’ve some Norse Gael or Viking genetics in the mix

Personally I don’t think the southern pull is from England as there hasn’t been any mixing with them, certainly not in recent times anyway

I think it’s far more ancient than that and is just excess EEF and megalith builder dna, seeing as I’m near entirely Gaelic and my dna on the ancient calculator has such a Bronze Age pull I’d imagine I retained much of the older dna of the country

My friends calculator has me scoring at 97% Atlantic Bronze Age higher than any Irish average

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[Grace O'Malley]

Interesting results, I seem to be a tiny bit closer to the Irish average than yourself, seeing as you’ve so much northern pull perhaps you’ve some Norse Gael or Viking genetics in the mix

Personally I don’t think the southern pull is from England as there hasn’t been any mixing with them, certainly not in recent times anyway

I think it’s far more ancient than that and is just excess EEF and megalith builder dna, seeing as I’m near entirely Gaelic and my dna on the ancient calculator has such a Bronze Age pull I’d imagine I retained much of the older dna of the country

My friends calculator has me scoring at 97% Atlantic Bronze Age higher than any Irish average

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Yes of course it could be that but the Irish Bronze Age was more northern than present day Irish so I'm thinking some later input from the nearest island and also the known history of Leinster. Yes I'm a bit more distant than yourself but my ancestry is from North Tipperary and Sligo/Roscommon and the majority of Irish are in the Leinster area so that might explain the distance. What would be interesting is some more scientific papers that looked at ancient genomes in Ireland.

[Atlantean Muller]

Yes of course it could be that but the Irish Bronze Age was more northern than present day Irish so I'm thinking some later input from the nearest island and also the known history of Leinster. Yes I'm a bit more distant than yourself but my ancestry is from North Tipperary and Sligo/Roscommon and the majority of Irish are in the Leinster area so that might explain the distance. What would be interesting is some more scientific papers that looked at ancient genomes in Ireland.

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Here’s illustrative dna

I’ve found it to be ok, I seem to drift in a slight ANE direction to the Irish average, the one with the pink countries is showing my closest nations


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